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    teucher
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      Hi folks

      I was looking for some advice on rotary tables. I have a warco wm16b milling machine and wondered what the best size rotary table would and if anyone had some advice on accessories etc. I have looked at the vevor 4,5 and 6 inch vices . I was considering the 5″ vice. What are your thoughts on that size for my mill and any recommendations for accessories

       

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      #762538
      Andy Stopford
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        @andystopford50521

        I have the same machine. My rotary table (very old, branded “Ace”) is 6″, and I find it it annoyingly small. I reckon 8″ would be do-able if you can find one that isn’t excessively tall. Note though that I’m talking about using the RT flat – if you have one that can stand on end, then 6″ might be about the biggest you could use. I’d favour the ease of setup, clamping, etc., with the larger table, over the stand-on-end capability.

        #762543
        not done it yet
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          @notdoneityet

          Vevor?  Not looking for a good quality product?  Personally I wouldn’t touch them with a barge pole.  I only buy from that supplier if I am confident I can live with, or fix, the likely issues.

          #762550
          Tony Pratt 1
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            @tonypratt1

            Think very carefully before committing, weight may be one of the issues. 8″ RT is 30kg, 6″ is 12kg [from Warco site]

            Tony

            #762558
            teucher
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              @teucher

              Hi,

              I was thinking about the 5 inch as it will be small parts il be making also might want to use it vertically. I worried 6″ vertically would not leave much room. What accessories would be advisable

              Thanks

              #762574
              Jim Nic
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                @jimnic

                I too have a WM 16 mill and I bought a Vertex 5 inch rotary table to use on it.

                The 5 inch fits nicely on the mill both horizontally and vertically but it I find it a bit small to be very useful.  Additionally it has only 3 channels for fixture bolts which makes it somewhat awkward to use.

                Regarding accessories, I have an ER25 collet chuck which fits in the centre of the table and I’ve made an MT2 adaptor which fits also there with a 10mm dia centre hole so that I can make mandrels to fit various size parts for ease of location.

                Hope this helps

                Jim

                #762584
                Clive Foster
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                  @clivefoster55965

                  All the smaller rotary tables are inherently short of space to accommodate work holding clamps. In my view the 8″ – 200 mm size being the smallest that can satisfactorily exploit the common import Tee nut, stud and step block sets without too much futzing around. Even then it’s all pretty tight.

                  Best answer is a grid of tapped holes plate semipermanently fitted to the rotary table. I reckon 5 spot dice pattern on 1″ – 25 mm centres with 1/4″ or M6 threads works pretty well for most things. If you do predominantly very small work consider a tighter spacing with M4 or M5 threads. The optical lab equipment companies make aluminium breadboards with this sort of hole pattern that aren’t completely unaffordable if you don’t fancy tapping all those holes for example Thor labs:-

                  https://www.thorlabs.com/navigation.cfm?guide_id=45

                  is the index page for theirs. Other firms do similar things. Or maybe half the price from AliExpress.

                  For small work very simple sheet metal, 3 or 4 mm is plenty thick enough, bent L shape clamps with a slot or choice of bolt holes to take the fixing stud or screw work pretty well. Easy DIY and no tears lost if you cut into, or even through, one. Thicker, more engineered ones can have jack screw, with a foot so it doesn’t chew the table surface, can cover a greater range. On my little BCA I found a knurled knob on the jack screw, rather than a proper hex or allen socket, generated perfectly adequate clamping forces for small stuff and small cutters.

                  Clive

                   

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