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When locking the head after tramming puts the mill seriously out of tram

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    Bill Phinn
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      I’ve just had the displeasure of spending nearly two hours tramming my Warco WM18 (it’s now within 0.01mm over a radius of about 7 inches, which will do).

      Nine tenths of the displeasure was caused by the fact that tightening down the two locking bolts after tramming always put the perfect tram I’d just carefully dialled in out of whack by anything between 0.5 and 1mm – the amount things became out of whack being proportionate to how tightly each locking bolt was finally tightened down – something which, as you can imagine, is difficult to gauge without a torque wrench, and there’s no way you can get any normally-proportioned torque wrench up inside the head of a Warco WM18 and on to the upper of the two locking bolts.

      Having to counteract this tram-altering effect at the final hurdle and hit the desired accuracy when everything was tightened down seemed practically impossible initially, and it was only by many tedious lockings and unlockings and tappings of the head that I finally hit the numbers I was looking for with everything locked down.

      If anyone can suggest a tramming technique that would involve less trial and error in the present circumstances, I would be delighted to hear from them.

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      DC31k
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        @dc31k

        From your description, this appears to be an engineering problem not a technique problem.

        Human beings are smart enough to overcome deficiencies in most things, as you have proved by the hours of your life you have just wasted.

        Spend one more hour applying that same smartness and assess WHY the current setup does not work as it should. Think about how it could be re-engineered to function better. Heal the injury, not just go to the forum shop for a better plaster.

        It is hard to recommend anything at all from the sparse description you have given. Unless a person had the exact same machine, we do not know the details of what you are doing nor how the mechanical system works. All you have told us is that you have to tighten two bolts that are somewhat inaccessible and that you believe the torque to which those bolts is subject has a high correlation with success of the overall process.

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        JasonB
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          @jasonb

          Yes hard to say without even the basics such as is it moving sideways when tightened which would be due to head rotating or is it front/to back nod which could be down to the mating surfaces?

          A good reason not to tilt your head unless you really need to.

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