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    Peter Simpson 3
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      @petersimpson3

      Hi all I have been asked to make a trigger guard for a very old BSA air rifle. The original part was made out of cast steel and is too complicated to machine out of steel stock. As I do not have access to foundry equipment or a 3D printer I thought it possible to make it out of resin using the original part to make mold. I have never worked with resin, do you guys have any tips as to where to start ?

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      #749842
      David George 1
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        @davidgeorge1

        I would have thought that resin would have been a bit fragile and would have a go at making one from mild steel. Mark out the shape on a suitable thickness of steel. chain drill the shape leaving on a small amount of material. File and grind with a flexible drive and carbide bits. File and polish with emery cloth job done.

        David

        #749907
        bernard towers
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          @bernardtowers37738

          Right David no short cut in gunsmithing but the satisfaction cant be beaten

          #749972
          James Alford
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            @jamesalford67616

            I have reproduced a few things using resin and it can work well. I used a silicon rubber to make a two-part mould and cast the pieces using GlassCast resin. The resin can be coloured with dyes or you can mix powders into it when it is liquid. This adds strength. The silicon and the resin reproduce the fine details of the original perfectly, including any scratches. Side by side, with careful colouring, the original and reproduction are virtually indistinguishable.

            The resin is strong, at least in bulk. I have also used it to cast small press tools to stamp out floor covers for steering columns from body-panel thickness steel.

            I bought the products from a company called Easy Composites. Their technical support, both by their on-line tools and by phone, is excellent.

            Good luck.

            James.

             

            #749973
            Dalboy
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              @dalboy

              Reins maybe OK for certain applications, but for what you intend I would have it made from steel.

              Polyester resin for example is very brittle, I know this as I have cast pen blanks from it other Resins may need other equipment to cast them such as vacuum chambers. How those resins would hold up I don’t know as I have only used the polyester types.

              May be of use if you talk to some of the companies that supply them or even have a chat to some of the pen turning guys on the pen turning forum

              #750001
              James Alford
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                @jamesalford67616

                The resin that I use is an expoxy resin. To add strength if the piece is thin and potentially fragile, I imagine that you could shape some flat steel or thin rod into the profile of the part and embed it in the resin.  Any colour will then hide it.

                James.

                #750070
                not done it yet
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                  @notdoneityet

                  Can’t find a replacement from somewhere that repairs/restores this type of airgun?

                  That is where I would start.

                  #750171
                  MichaelR
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                    @michaelr

                    The link below will take you to a BSA parts supplier they show trigger guards for various BSA rifles, they have lot of pages to scroll through.

                    Link https://www.airgunspares.com/gunspares/airgun-spares/bsa-air-rifle-models.html?p=30

                    https://www.airgunspares.com/166568bsalightningtriggerguard.html

                    #750360
                    Peter Simpson 3
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                      @petersimpson3

                      Unfortunately the rifle is too old, made in 1939, nobody has any spares.

                      #750370
                      SillyOldDuffer
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                        @sillyoldduffer

                        Another vote for David George’s answer.  Mild steel is fine for this, and a traditional gun-maker, probably a specialist ‘finisher’, would  have filed it without a flexible drive and carbide bit.   The main objection to this method is it’s hard-work!

                        CNC is possible too.   If Peter can model the guard in 3D-CAD, it could be outsourced to a CNC service.   Cost and the difficulty of finding a service prepared to do business with a hobbyist are the main problem.   Plenty of UK CNC firms supporting businesses, anyone know of one who will work for a Model Engineer?  Or maybe a kind member with CNC kit would take pity on him.

                        I keep my metal-working capabilities low-profile because it attracts the kind of neighbour who believes I’ll enjoy spend a few days making him a complex part out of expensive metal for the price of a pint, or less!  Same people are also likely to take offence when the answer is ‘no’!

                        Dave

                        #750392
                        duncan webster 1
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                          @duncanwebster1

                          If you can produce a drawing you could start with a laser cut profile, save a fair bit of filing.

                          #750396
                          duncan webster 1
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                            @duncanwebster1

                            It’s just dawned on me that if you can produce a mould you must have access to an original part, so with a photogrametry expert you can produce a 3D model. Then get it 3D printed in metal, or in wax and get it investment cast. Alternatively, carve one out of wax and get it cast.

                            #750479
                            Diogenes
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                              @diogenes

                              I’m with the ‘make from steel’ replies – if the gun will ever be used, emphatically so; the guard has a purpose and must be sufficiently strong to perform correctly, say if the weapon is dropped.

                              If you have the facilities, fabricate a brazed-up blank and mill / drill / saw / file to shape…?

                              Do you have the original part for a pattern?

                              A picture would help.

                               

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