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    Stephen Gill
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      @stephengill79322

      hi can any one advise me the best way to remove the 2  bearings in the clutch of my super 7 with the brass cone and should the oilite bearings have holes in them ? i have a small vibration from this area it improved when i changed the thrust bearing but is still evident at higher speed

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      #749097
      Hopper
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        @hopper

        Usual procedure with Oilite bushings is to knock the old ones out with a hammer and suitable drift. Then install the new ones with a stout fine-threaded draw bolt and flat washers to pull  them in nice and straight. Something like 1/2″ or 9/16″ UNF should do the job. The fine thread applies more force than a coarse one and seems to make things go easier.

        If the new bushes are tight on the shaft after installation, you can ease them with a good sharp reamer, according to the Oilite instruction literature.

        No oil hole usually needed because the bushing is porous. But if the original Myford bushes you take out have holes drilled in them, I would do likewise.

        #749114
        bernard towers
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          @bernardtowers37738

          You say you have slight vibration at higher speed, how high? and is it with 3 jaw or 4 jaw fitted, I personally very rarely go into the 2000rpm area and then only using collets.

          #749138
          Stephen Gill
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            @stephengill79322

            The oilite ones in the lathe has holes but the oil runs out of the oil caps very quickly so going to change all the bearings at the same time

            #749139
            Stephen Gill
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              @stephengill79322

              The vibrations are definitely from the clutch shaft though out the speed range getting worse at higher speed local machine shop gave me some bits of steel and advised me to turn at about 2000 with carbide it finishes with a mirror finish

              #749147
              Nealeb
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                @nealeb

                Quite a few years ago my S7, bought second-hand but unused, suffered from vibration on the higher primary belt speed although OK on the low speed range. Seems that it was due to a less-than-perfect V-belt – slight imperfection at the join or somesuch. I changed it for a link belt on the advice of someone-or-other and it completely cured the problem. No slipping problems either with the link belt. Just a thought.

                #749149
                Stephen Gill
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                  @stephengill79322

                  Have changed the clutch pulley belt which helped but I have also run lathe without drive belt and it vibrates from the clutch shaft have also fitted 3 phase Tesla motor that is really smooth so I know it’s not that looks like I to change bearings inside the clutch if that don’t work maybe learn to live with it !

                  #749172
                  Hopper
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                    @hopper

                    Could be the clutch and pulley unit out of balance too. Maybe due to wear? If bearings don’t fix it, you could mount it on a couple of ball bearings and balance it by drilling holes in the heavy side. I would balance the inner hub unit as one piece and the outer pulley unit as another.

                    #749181
                    SillyOldDuffer
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                      @sillyoldduffer
                      On Stephen Gill Said:

                      Have changed the clutch pulley belt which helped but I have also run lathe without drive belt and it vibrates from the clutch shaft have also fitted 3 phase Tesla motor that is really smooth so I know it’s not that looks like I to change bearings inside the clutch if that don’t work maybe learn to live with it !

                      Can’t help with mending the clutch, but having a 3-phase motor fitted reduces the need for one. Perhaps the clutch isn’t needed, fix by removing!

                      Single-phase motors as fitted to a plain Myford don’t like start/stop operation, which becomes a serious problem on busy machines. A clutch extends motor life by reducing the number of motor stop/starts needed.  Myford clutches are optional because the number of start/stops are much lower on a lightly loaded hobby lathe.

                      Three-phase motors with VFD are far more tolerant of start/stops than single-phase, so much so that the clutch becomes the undesirable  point of failure.

                      As my lathe doesn’t have a clutch, not having one is no skin off my nose!  But is it one of those things the operator gets used to, such that removing it reduces productivity?

                      Dave

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