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  • #744753
    Bo’sun
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      @bosun58570

      Good afternoon All,

      A question for you knowledgeable folk.  I have a 2mm x 100mm x 130T slitting saw, purchased from an established supplier.

      How much peripheral runout is considered acceptable?

      I’ve checked it using a dial indicator with an “elephants foot” stylus and measured 0.55mm (TIR) runout.  This was replaced by another, (that I asked to be checked before despatch).  Using the same method, the replacement saw measured 0.35mm (TIR).

      The slitting saw was mounted on a stub arbor with 0.03mm runout at the slitting saw position.

      I welcome comments on my method of measurement.  I wasn’t sure how else to do it.

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      #744760
      JA
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        @ja

        This subject has been discussed at great length twice this year.

        Simply, eccentric running of slitting saws is the norm.

        It would be nice if someone would gather the postings together, write something and send it to the ME. You may even get some money!

        JA (being a bit of a killjoy)

        #744761
        Bazyle
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          @bazyle

          That sounds terrible, 20 thou on a 4 in cutter. I would be looking for a thou or less on a new one. Must mearsure some of mine. When I hear it obviously not true I assume it is my arbor, collet, spindle.

          #744763
          JasonB
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            @jasonb

            Although your arbor is 0.03 what is the fit of the saw like on the arbor? any slack

            #744766
            Bo’sun
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              @bosun58570

              Hello Jason,

              The saws appear (to me) to fit the arbor just fine.  No discernible slack, and quite close to slide on.

              #744774
              Baz
              Participant
                @baz89810

                If it were mine I would be sending it back and asking for a refund.

                 

                #744775
                Clive Brown 1
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                  @clivebrown1

                  With the radial runouts mentioned by the OP, only a few teeth will ever do any cutting.

                  #744777
                  Bo’sun
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                    @bosun58570

                    That’s correct Clive.  Initially looking at it by eye, it did appear to be running out somewhat.  So I tried a cut, and yes, it was by the sound of it, only cutting on a few teeth per revolution.

                    Why on earth did I pay for the other hundred or so teeth?

                    #744779
                    JasonB
                    Moderator
                      @jasonb

                      Thay may come in useful once you have worn the first few down😉

                      #744782
                      Michael Gilligan
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                        @michaelgilligan61133

                        To save overloading the poor little site search facility …

                        This should be a reasonable place to dive-in:

                        https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/topic/sharpening-fine-tooth-slitting-saws/#post-472610

                        MichaelG.

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                        Edit: __ Should was obviously the most relevant word … the hyperlink in that post doesn’t work !!

                        #744788
                        bernard towers
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                          @bernardtowers37738

                          Sorry but runout is down to your arbor, I have several and the only ones which are right are taper fit and cost decent money.

                          #744795
                          JasonB
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                            @jasonb

                            Bernard, can you explain how an arbour that clocks at 0.03mm will give a run out of 0.55mm at the saw’s edge if it is a good fit on the arbour?

                            #744801
                            Roderick Jenkins
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                              @roderickjenkins93242

                              I have a large-ish selection of slitting saws made by various old school Sheffield manufacturers and they all, without exception, exhibit the pulsing sound when cutting which seems to suggest run-out even when running on my home made taper fitted arbors with imperceptible run-out.  I would have thought any half decent grinding machine would result in an undetectable difference in tooth grind.  Bandsaw blades are available with all sorts of tooth variations – skip tooth and variable tooth pitch to improve their cutting ability so it occurs to me that slitting saws may be designed to have a variable cutting action…

                              Rod

                              #744802
                              bernard towers
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                                @bernardtowers37738

                                Crap saw

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