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    Vic
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      @vic

      I was looking at some bearings today and for any given size/type there can be dozens of options. What caught my eye though were the “Premium” brands. Which of these makes would you choose from the list?

      FAG

      Koyo

      NSK

      Nachi

      SKF

       

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      #743736
      Harry Wilkes
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        @harrywilkes58467

        For me it would be SKF but to be fair I’m not conversant with the other makes

        H

        #743745
        noel shelley
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          @noelshelley55608

          Their all good makes !Though I would go for FAG or SKF. Noel

          #743749
          Neil Lickfold
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            @neillickfold44316

            All those make a high spec bearing.

            The best roundness bearing balls are ceramic grade3 balls.

            Finally comes to price or availability.

            FAG, NSK, Nachi, SKF, are all local for here in Hamilton.

            Sometimes the only ones available are the cheapies , and have sometimes found them to be as good as the more name brand bearings. Where possible, I will go for one of the above 4 brands as my first choice.

            I make up ceramic bearings for my model engines, and find that the FAG and SKF bearings have a very consistent outer race way diameter, as long as the bearings being used, come from the same plant. If they come from different plants, ie Japan for one batch and then Portugal, for another batch of the same brand, the outer race diameter can be as much as 30um different. The bearing will have the same clearance, but that does not help if you are trying to match an outer race with a shaft that already has the inner race groove ground in it.

             

            #743750
            Hopper
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              @hopper

              Any of those are going to be good. Nachi are a bit cheaper than SKF but are good. Koyo recently took over the section of Timken that makes Torrington needle rollers. They are good.

              #743753
              Paul Lousick
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                @paullousick59116

                All of those brands are good but they all sell different grades of bearing.

                #743809
                Hopper
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                  @hopper

                  The main thing is avoid the cheap no-name Chinese bearings for anything critical. Some are ok, some are not. But there is no way to tell which you have until it fails. Bearings are cheap, buy the good ones. The work involved in replacing them invariably outweighs the cost.

                  The main bearing in my 5-year-old Chinese-made washing machine is making horrible noises already and is not long for this world. I will be replacing it with an SKF.  My previous washing machine, same brand but made in Australia, lasted 10 years before the same thing happened and I foolishly bought a new machine thinking it would last the same. My mother’s washing machine lasted 20 or more. Sign of the times. Just when sustainability is becoming critical for survival.

                  #743823
                  JA
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                    @ja

                    Just a comment. In the UK when buying bearings from a bearing supplier, ask for a discount. You will usually get one. If you are buying quite a few you may get better than 50%. Like car tyres, bearings are generally emergency purchaces and in such cases the buyer can pay a lot of money.

                    JA

                    #743838
                    mgnbuk
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                      @mgnbuk

                      I would not have a problem with any of the brands listed, though I usually specify SKF if I have a choice.

                      Many SKF bearings are available in their “Explorer” specification, which are supposedly lower friction & higher spec than their normal range.

                      Nigel B.

                      #743839
                      noel shelley
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                        @noelshelley55608

                        JA has a good point ! The list price is just a starting point, in most cases a hefty discount will be available – Just ask and yes 50% up is possible. Noel.

                        #743882
                        Vic
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                          @vic

                          Some good info, glad I posted.

                          #743891
                          Nicholas Farr
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                            @nicholasfarr14254

                            Hi, well in my old maintenance job, I’ve fitted hundreds of all of them except Nachi, but they all last about the same amount of time, however, frequency of use and the environment conditions they are used in, do make a difference. But the old company used SKF mostly, especially where they would have a hard life, but they also used a lot of Cooper bearings as well.

                            Regards Nick.

                            #743907
                            bernard towers
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                              @bernardtowers37738

                              Good old Cooper bearings still going strong and in Noels neck of the woods!

                              #743957
                              Paul Lousick
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                                @paullousick59116

                                I have a friend that used to work for SKF and I was amazed when he told me of the discounts that they give, depending on who you are. Their regular customers that buy big get big discounts, like 50% and Joe Blow that makes a small one-off purchase pays full price, 100%. Others get something in between.

                                #743970
                                Nicholas Farr
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                                  @nicholasfarr14254

                                  Hi Paul, the company I used to work for got big discounts on many things, from many firms, including bearing companies, but the way it worked was that they got annual rebates through using the same suppliers, but they did have one company they dealt with direct, that gave a bigger discount than the suppliers could get, but there was very many thousands of pounds changing hands in the course of a year.

                                  Regards Nick.

                                  #743971
                                  Nicholas Farr
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                                    @nicholasfarr14254

                                    Hi Bernard, Cooper has been part of SKF for some time now.

                                    Regards Nick.

                                    #744001
                                    ega
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                                      @ega

                                      This  is a timely topic for me as I am thinking of replacing the two spindle bearings in my Harrison Graduate wood lathe. I have seen an SKF replacement set at about £75 but have seen much cheaper ones.

                                      I understand that the bearings are:

                                      6010 deep groove 50x 80×16 and

                                      6208 -do- 40x80x18

                                      Do such bearings have shelf life eg because the grease ages? The Harrison is equipped with screw-down grease cups.

                                      Any helpful comment would be appreciated.

                                      #744004
                                      peak4
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                                        @peak4
                                        On Nicholas Farr Said:

                                        Hi Paul, the company I used to work for got big discounts on many things, from many firms, including bearing companies, but the way it worked was that they got annual rebates through using the same suppliers, but they did have one company they dealt with direct, that gave a bigger discount than the suppliers could get, but there was very many thousands of pounds changing hands in the course of a year.

                                        Regards Nick.

                                        Probably over 20 years ago now, I called into my local bearing supplier for a couple of fairly common bearings.
                                        The chap I normally dealt with was on his lunch, so I was quoted a price by someone else behind the counter, seemingly full retail, as I didn’t have a trade account with them.
                                        I can’t remember the exact prices now, but it was well up to £40 per bearing + VAT.
                                        Fortunately my normal contact appeared and I questioned the price, as I only wanted two, not a box of ten.
                                        It turned out his colleague hadn’t applied my discount, which was clearly shown on the written receipt when I paid just under £4 each inc VAT
                                        Discount -93% I couldn’t believe it at the time, though that figure has stuck in my mind, and no they weren’t clearance stock.
                                        Bill

                                        #744072
                                        Mark Rand
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                                          @markrand96270

                                          I would pay less attention to the manufacturer and more attention to the precision grade of the bearings on offer, at least for things like lathe/mill spindles or high speed bearings.

                                          #744079
                                          JasonB
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                                            @jasonb

                                            Yep as a simple example a bearing using just the numbers for my CNC would be £15 if I add the letters after the number you can add at least another 0 to the cost and that is after discount.

                                            #744098
                                            Hollowpoint
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                                              @hollowpoint

                                              BEWARE!

                                              There are lots of fake bearings coming from China so buy from a reputable dealer. Well they aren’t “fake” but they are low quality bearings badged up as the top brands. SKF seems to be the most commonly faked.

                                              My preference:

                                              1. Genuine SKF

                                              2. FAG / Koyo / Timken

                                              #744117
                                              Wink Hackman
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                                                @winkhackman25989

                                                You might also try smbbearings.com – they do EZO Japanese brand which I’ve found good, and they’re helpful over the phone.

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