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    Chris V
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      @chrisv

      Good morning,
      Hoping you can help with this,

      Phosphor bronze PB102

      Or

      Colphos

      I’m looking to order a couple of PMR fittings, a valve & tee. Also some round & hex bar material.

      Out of the two above bronze options which appears more coppery in colour, ie would best match the cast bronze of the PMR valve?

      OR, are both of the above nearer the colour of brass?

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      bernard towers
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        @bernardtowers37738

        Colphos is more of a copper color than PB102

        #736648
        Dave Wootton
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          @davewootton

          Strangely have just been using both materials to make some bearings and a small part for a blowdown valve. The Colphos I have is much more coppery in colour to the PB102. Both materials supplied by M-Machine.

          Dave

          Must learn to type faster!

          #736650
          JA
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            @ja

            I don’t think it matters too much as far as properties as long as you stay away from Aluminium and Manganese Bronze. Colphos 90 is nice to use and is a dark reddy brown in clour. Both round and hexagonal bar are available from M-Machine (just a happy customer).

            JA

            Bernard & Dave beat me to the answer (and we agreed!).

            #736660
            Chris V
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              @chrisv

              Thank you very much for your prompt replies! Its great you all agree…polar opposite to the answer from my supplier.

              No problem though, I will try M-Machine (-:

              Thanks again!

              Chris.

              #736662
              JasonB
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                @jasonb

                Colphos for me as it machines nicely.

                I have some PMR cast pipe fittings here and can’t see much of a difference in colour between the two

                #736669
                Chris V
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                  @chrisv

                  Thanks Jason, Colphos is the way I shall go . Also sending you a PM.

                  #736695
                  Dalboy
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                    @dalboy

                    I turned a  gear for the Farm Boy from PB102 THIS is the colour it came out

                    #736863
                    Chris V
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                      @chrisv

                      Thanks Dalboy.

                       

                      Courious as to why 1/2″ Hex does not appear to be available anywhere in Colphos 90?!

                      #736864
                      JA
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                        @ja

                        I am not sure but I think some Colphos 90 non-metric AF sizes are the same as Whitworth bolt head AF dimensions.

                        I have just bought two length to make steam fittings assuming that is the case. If not, I am not really worried. Some spanner will fit even if I have to make/modify one.

                        JA

                        #736877
                        Chris V
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                          @chrisv

                          Thanks JA, the available sizes seem to jump from 7/16″ to 3/4″ without much if anything inbetween.

                          Yes suppling to spanner sizes makes some sense of course, but not everything ends up needing a spanner!

                          Still rather puzzelled!

                          Chris.

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