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    Michael Callaghan
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      @michaelcallaghan68621

      Hi, I have a problem. I need to cut a bit off a 7 inch round bar of aluminium. My autosaw is too small for this job. And lathe parting off tools that I know off are not up to the job. Is there anyway bar hacksaw ( I would be sawing for days) that a section can be cut from this bar. Thanks

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      #702562
      Gaz
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        @gaz13336

        I’d go to a local engineering firm and see if they’d cut it for you. I think most places are happy to do things for a small fee / beer payment.

        Best of luck,

        Gaz

        #702564
        Mick B1
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          @mickb1

          If your lathe is big enough to swing it, and your chuck big enough to grip it, you should be able to part it, even if you have to start with a wider dug-out parting groove to let in a toolshank when the stem gets smaller. Then hacksaw the last 10mm or so to avoid a dramatic event on final separation.

          Failing that, are there any metal suppliers or other engineers in your area who might chop it with their bandsaw if you mark it up with a Sharpie or suchlike and offer them a fee or a bottle of something?

          #702566
          Dave Halford
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            @davehalford22513

            Do you have any wood working tools? I’ve used a B&D drill attachment type circular saw on a big chunk of Alloy without any ill effects.

            #702568
            Clive Brown 1
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              @clivebrown1

              A local engineering firm would be my suggestion too. Even holding a 7″ billet to make a cut would be difficult in most home workshops.

              It might just be possible to make 1″ deep cuts with an angle grinder to reduce the section to ~5″, but even then, hand-sawing would be a demanding task.

              #702575
              Nicholas Farr
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                @nicholasfarr14254

                Hi, I agree with Gaz, as any decent fabrication shop will probably have a power saw of some type to cut it.

                The last industrial bandsaw I ever used, would have cut it without any problems, and would have done it within ten minutes.

                2016-05-17 11.59.50

                Regards Nick.

                #702592
                DC31k
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                  @dc31k
                  On Michael Callaghan Said:

                  My autosaw is too small for this job.

                  I might be clutching at straws here, but is the saw too small to sever the part or too small for the bar to fit in at all?

                  In normal use, you would put the ‘large’ end of the bar under the bow of the saw and the offcut in free space. Can you reverse that setup and put the body of the bar in space (suitably supported and secured) and the slim offcut under the saw frame?

                  If you add an end stop to the setup, you can cut until the saw body touches the part, rotate it and cut some more. Even if it does not get all the way through, it willl minimise hacksawing.

                  #702594
                  peak4
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                    @peak4

                    I don’t know what facilities you have after your house move, but how about a slitting saw on a mill, with the workpiece on a rotary table. This assumes that the billet is only fairly short of course.
                    Even if you don’t get all the way through, it will still reduce the diameter to be hand sawn considerably.

                    After that, maybe finish off with a shark/reciprocating saw if you have one; try using a long wood or pruning saw blade.
                    Last time I had a large diameter soft aluminium bar to cut, without access to a power saw, I used a garden bow saw with a new blade.
                    They are razor sharp new, and have a wide tooth spacing for chip removal.

                    Bill

                    #702611
                    JasonB
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                      @jasonb

                      I’ve used my bandsaw to cut larger than it’s capacity, just come down as far as you can before the guides or frame touch something . Then rotate works and cut again. Even if you can’t do it all you significantly reduce the amount that the hack saw has to do.

                      #702653
                      Michael Callaghan
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                        @michaelcallaghan68621

                        Thanks chaps. Sorted now.

                        #702793
                        Ian P
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                          @ianp
                          On Michael Callaghan Said:

                          Thanks chaps. Sorted now.

                          What is an ‘Autosaw’ mentioned in first post?

                          2nd question…. how was ‘sorted’ achieved?

                          Ian P

                           

                          #702926
                          Martin Connelly
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                            @martinconnelly55370

                            The bow saw idea strikes me as a good idea regardless of how it was actually sorted. My experience of bow saws is that they wander a bit easily but starting a groove all round first should avoid too much wandering.

                            Martin C

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