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Conventional hacksaw blades in Junior size ?

This topic has 28 replies, 10 voices, and was last updated 26 December 2023 at 15:27 by Michael Gilligan.

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21 December 2023 at 08:35 #700687
Michael Gilligan
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Simple question:

Do they exist, and if so, where can I buy them ?

I’m looking for a straight, not wavy, HSS blade with fine teeth and a modest kerf

… ideally with holes/pins at ‘Junior’ centres, but adaptors could be made.

Thanks

MichaelG.

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P.S. __ whilst looking for the most appropriate ‘Forum’ for this, I noticed that we do not appear to have one specific to Hand Tools
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21 December 2023 at 09:04 #700693
JasonB
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Nearest I found was this but looks to have the wavy teeth of a “conventional” hacksaw blade and could not find the blades listed separately.

Would something like the old gents saw be an option, you can get them for metal and the kerf is thin

A bi-metal would probably be better than HSS as in the section you are looking for may be brittle.

PS I spent a lot of time trimming down the number of forum sections that we had prior to the new site going live, I still think there are too many and as we have managed for years without one for hand tools can probably manage for a few more yet. I would say the section you have put it in is appropriate as a saw is a tool that can be used in the workshop.
21 December 2023 at 09:33 #700704
Michael Gilligan
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Thanks, Jason

At my age, yes an Old Gent Saw might be appropriate, but it’s not what I was looking for: I bought a surprisingly good little frame last week, with a ‘pistol grip’ handle that fits me nicely … and I want some fine-toothed straight blades to use in it.

Obviously I use a piercing saw for some work, but the ever-worsening arthritis means that something with self-guiding properties would be useful, so a stiff blade with some depth and a narrow kerf would seem ideal.

Some of the little ‘Razor Saw’ blades for plastic models are about the right pitch, but don’t have much set on the teeth, and they blunt very quickly.

Oh well … I thought I was asking a simple question, and look where we are already !!

MichaelG.
21 December 2023 at 10:20 #700714
Kiwi Bloke
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In a little-used, dark recess in my unreliable memory, I think there’s an entry under ‘Starrett’ for screw-head slotting saw blades. ‘Fraid I can’t remember what dimensions or fitting arrangements, though. Perhaps a seed for another famous MG ‘net trawl? If you find they are still available, please let us know…
21 December 2023 at 11:17 #700725
Michael Gilligan
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On 21 December 2023 at 10:20 Kiwi Bloke Said:

In a little-used, dark recess in my unreliable memory, I think there’s an entry under ‘Starrett’ for screw-head slotting saw blades. ‘Fraid I can’t remember what dimensions or fitting arrangements, though. Perhaps a seed for another famous MG ‘net trawl? If you find they are still available, please let us know…

Thanks … I certainly will

MichaelG.

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Edit: __ predictably enough, a search on Starrett’s site finds nothing … but in a fine example of topic-creep we get this:

https://www.hosfordco.com/tools-measuring-1/screw-slotting

< gulp >
21 December 2023 at 11:32 #700726
Michael Gilligan
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Getting closer … and it’s a great company name:

https://www.mutualscrew.com/product/ivy-classic-11092-6-32t-hacksaw-blade-183277.cfm

MichaelG.

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Edit: __ Irwin blades from Screwfix might do
21 December 2023 at 11:56 #700732
Brian Wood
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Hello Michael,

Many years ago I was able to buy a supply of spiral cut hacksaw blades from a company called Weeks Distributors in Taylors, South Carolina. I included a small pack of Junior hacksaw blades having the same type of blade, of which I have a few left.

The email address for these people no longer works, their website takes you direct to sales for aluminium welding rods so I assume they no longer trade.

The blades are 1.65mm in diameter and slot into Junior hacksaw frames with squashed dimples at each end. They do of course cut in all directions.

I will happily send you one in the post if that will get you close to where you want to be. I don’t know if PMs still work on the new forum, if not my email address is wood_y(at)btinternet(dot)com

Note there is an underscore between the d and y

Regards Brian
21 December 2023 at 11:57 #700733
JasonB
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The Ivy blade looks to be standard Junior depth eg approx 1/4″ as do the Irwin ones
21 December 2023 at 12:09 #700734
Michael Gilligan
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On 21 December 2023 at 11:57 JasonB Said:

The Ivy blade looks to be standard Junior depth eg approx 1/4″ as do the Irwin ones

Yes, that’s disappointing … but at least both appear to not be wavy.

Still in search of something in the Goldilocks Zone

MichaelG.
21 December 2023 at 12:10 #700735
JasonB
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Looks to have the depth
21 December 2023 at 12:14 #700736
noel shelley
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The nearest might be an Eclipse 12″ all hard 32t and a 1/8″ tungsten bit to drill the holes ? A 12″ blade halved by grinding might give 2 6″ blades, I know it would be wavy but might be the nearest you get. Good Luck and seasons greetings. Noel.
21 December 2023 at 12:15 #700737
Michael Gilligan
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On 21 December 2023 at 11:56 Brian Wood Said:

Hello Michael,

…

Many thanks for that, Brian

I will send you a P.M. later this afternoon, to demonstrate that the system works

… You will probably need to look in your Profile to see the notification

[ such is progress ]

MichaelG.
21 December 2023 at 12:19 #700738
Michael Gilligan
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On 21 December 2023 at 12:10 JasonB Said:

Looks to have the depth

Encouraging, if rather pricey, thanks Jason

Shame the tpi is rather coarse though.

MichaelG.
21 December 2023 at 12:20 #700739
peak4
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Have you considered cutting up a suitable bimetal bandsaw blade?

Bill
21 December 2023 at 12:25 #700741
JasonB
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Old thread with link to the Starret blades and some other saws
21 December 2023 at 12:26 #700742
Michael Gilligan
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On 21 December 2023 at 12:14 noel shelley Said:

The nearest might be an Eclipse 12″ all hard 32t and a 1/8″ tungsten bit to drill the holes ? A 12″ blade halved by grinding might give 2 6″ blades, I know it would be wavy but might be the nearest you get. Good Luck and seasons greetings. Noel.

I was thinking along those lines, Noel, thanks … I have done similar with bow-saw blades [tree pruning] … but I was hoping somehow to get a thinner blade for this Junior.

MichaelG.
21 December 2023 at 12:34 #700743
Michael Gilligan
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Before this turns into a log-jam of Thank You notes from me … may I just thank everyone for their input.

The Goldilocks version still eludes me, but there are some very helpful thoughts.

MichaelG.
21 December 2023 at 16:05 #700767
bernard towers
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If you find non wavy bi-metal blades you can cut the back off them with tin snips and punch holes for pins in the appropriate place. I have a saw which has a 10 inch blade with most of the back trimmed off (not the ends) and it enables you to saw smaller curves than normal.
21 December 2023 at 18:31 #700795
File Handle
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I have some very old 10″ HSS blades that are fairly thin.
You can get none wavy blades for junior hack saws, but they are for wood and not so fine teeth. Not tried mine on metal. Some of the cheaper blades do come thinner, but ones I have used have a short life.
They may exist but will be hard to find.
21 December 2023 at 18:32 #700796
Michael Gilligan
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@michaelgilligan61133
Thanks for sharing that, Bernard … I may need to experiment if Goldilocks doesn’t show-up soon.

MichaelG.
21 December 2023 at 18:35 #700798
Michael Gilligan
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On 21 December 2023 at 18:31 File Handle Said:

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They may exist but will be hard to find.

Hence my question to this learned assembly

MichaelG.
21 December 2023 at 20:21 #700802
Kiwi Bloke
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It seems that my memory was correct, if incomplete – Starrett #249. But like so much in memory, it’s now redundant. The blades seem to be Unobtainium. Progress. The world has moved on, leaving us old folk behind. So much of what we know/knew, and remember is obsolete…..(sigh).
21 December 2023 at 20:37 #700805
Michael Gilligan
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I will join you in that sigh

… thanks for the memory !

MichaelG.
21 December 2023 at 20:44 #700810
Neil Wyatt
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If a standard hacksaw is too clumsy and you want a thin blade in a hacksaw-like size, why not use a piercing saw?

Neil
21 December 2023 at 21:12 #700812
Michael Gilligan
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On 21 December 2023 at 20:44 Neil Wyatt Said:

If a standard hacksaw is too clumsy and you want a thin blade in a hacksaw-like size, why not use a piercing saw?

Neil

Explained in an earlier post

MichaelG.
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