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  • #682517
    Norman Billingham
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      @normanbillingham91454

      I help run a woodturning club and we use domestic security cameras for our demonstrations.  These connect via ethernet leads and the cables originally supplied are fitted with plastic RJ45 plugs,  Over time, as people dismantle the setup in a hurry at the ends of meetings, the plugs lose the little plastic bits which lock them into their sockets, and the connections become unreliable,  I’m looking for Cat 6 RJ45 plugs which are more robust, ideally with a metal locking clip.  The range available is bewildering with prices from a few pennies to tens of pounds. Does anyone have practical experience of plugs which are more reliable than the cheap plastic things, and don’t cost too much?

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      #682577
      Dave Halford
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        @davehalford22513

        Rugged would be Mil spec, which screw together. How much? Don’t ask + they won’t fit on the camera housing anyway.

        New ready made cables don’t cost so much. the connection should still be reliable  as long as the cord has slack, so get some a metre longer than the ones you have.

        #682607
        SillyOldDuffer
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          @sillyoldduffer

          Another approach if a practical man is available is to buy an RJ45 crimping tool and just replace the broken ones. RJ45 are easy to fit if you have reasonable tools – not too cheap!

          Been retired a long time now, but we used cheaper plugs unless breakages couldn’t be fixed from a stock of spare cables or mended quickly.  In part, we reasoned that it was better to break and replace cheap plugs than sockets.

          May have changed because the organisation outsourced all such work later, making simple repairs very expensive.  Probably switched to the pricey type now in hope they’ll last longer, only to find broken sockets can be horribly expensive!

          Dave

          #682618
          peak4
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            @peak4

            I’m with the idea of having the weak point on the cable, rather than the socket on a camera.
            RJ45 crimpers aren’t expensive these days, and the plastic plugs are cheap enough; on some of my home installations, I do fit strain relief boots, which include a raised bit to protect the end of the locking lever, and prevent it getting bent back.
            This also allows for colour coding of cables.
            They are easy to find from the search term, and cheap.
            For stripping the outer, I find the clothes peg type strippers ideal; again cheap if you search for the right item, or feindishly expensive if you only look for fibre opic ones.

            Personally I prefer the one piece plastic RJ45s, rather than the ones with a separate comb for the wires.
            The latter might be OK if you only have a few to replace, but I was sometimes doing hundreds at a time.
            Basic continuity testers aren’t expensive either these days, though mine came from Maplin.

            For cutting the 8 wire ends square, I used to prefer a ribbon cable cutter, but someone nicked mine.
            The plastic pipe cutters from Lidl/Aldi with the insert Stanley knife blade work well, as they don’t crush the wire ends, but your fingers are very close to the sharp bits, so either make a safety shield, or keep them locked away.

            Bill

            #682623
            paul rayner
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              @paulrayner36054

              make your own up when broken and use boots.

              better having a weak plug than a broken socket.

              regards

              paul

              #682711
              Colin Heseltine
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                @colinheseltine48622

                Having been it IT ever since RJ45 plugs first appeared I have never seen any without plastic tags. You can either use plastic shrouds to cover the plug and its tag or you can get plugs with an inbuilt  cover just over the tag. If you are continually assembling/disassembling then you have to get use to tags eventually failing and having to fit new plugs

                Colin

                #682924
                John Haine
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                  @johnhaine32865

                  Use wireless cameras?

                  #682931
                  DC31k
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                    @dc31k

                    I am wondering if a female to female RJ45 connector used in conjunction with a short (150mm) male to male flylead would alleviate the issue. Make up some spare flyleads and put in the box with the equipment Then, if the extreme end that goes into the wall becomes u/s just employ a careful person to change the flylead.

                    If you can sleeve the connector, it will stop people accidently unplugging at the wrong joint but still allow proper access for the ‘service technician’.

                    I would recommend the pass through RJ45 plugs, where the wires go all the way through the plug and project, to be trimmed after crimping (for example Screwfix 7915X).

                    #689146
                    Norman Billingham
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                      @normanbillingham91454

                      Thanks to everyone for replies.  I did find some RJ45 plugs with metal locking tags, but I think the risk to damage to sockets means it’s probably best to live with plastic ones and replace them when they get broken.

                      #689198
                      Dave Halford
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                        @davehalford22513

                        Make sure the cable gauge matches the plug, Cat wire thicknesses vary between 23 to 28awg and fitting an rj45 meant for larger cable gauges may not give a reliable connection on a smaller gauge cable

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