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Help please, I have a Herbert

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22 July 2013 at 15:17 #125226
matthew sowter
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Hi Guys,

I have been recommended to post on this forum to find out which collet i need for the milling machine i recently purchased. I have been advised by Cutwel to give you guys an ask.

Okay so here goes: I have recently purchased a Herbert No10s Vertical Mill. It did not come with any tools. I am trying to purchase a the correct collet. I was wondering if any of you have come across this model and would know which collet type i would need.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated I have searched through the Internet and this forum but i can't seem to find anything.

Thank you in advance.

Matthew
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22 July 2013 at 15:17 #6791
matthew sowter
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Collect/ Chuck which one.
22 July 2013 at 18:46 #125244
JasonB
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I think they had their own specific taper so you may be better off making your own ER collet holder to fit the taper rather than making several collets or trying to find suitable tooling.

J
22 July 2013 at 19:05 #125246
Jo
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The Herbert taper is similair to the 30INT but you are going to have to machine them yourself or pay a fortune. Once set up it is not a problem just be prepared to make a few whilst you are at it.

You might find somethig in the history of Herbert's: **LINK**

Jo
22 July 2013 at 19:58 #125248
Mike Young 2
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You could also try Tony at lathes.co.uk for information on the machine ?

Mike
23 July 2013 at 02:23 #125266
Ady1
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You might find something in the history of Herbert's: **LINK**

I bought it… wish I hadn't, it's a kinda social history book with very little good stuff on Herberts and contains not a single picture or illustration

Tonys is your best bet, and look out for stuff on ebay

once a week, say tuesday night, search for herberty stuff, tech manuals etc

Edited By Ady1 on 23/07/2013 02:25:58
23 July 2013 at 09:44 #125275
matthew sowter
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Posted by JasonB on 22/07/2013 18:46:37:

I think they had their own specific taper so you may be better off making your own ER collet holder to fit the taper rather than making several collets or trying to find suitable tooling.

J

Thank you for your input Jason, I may just hold out for an ebay find as i don't have the tools or the knowhow to make m y own collec holders
23 July 2013 at 09:46 #125276
matthew sowter
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Posted by Jo on 22/07/2013 19:05:43:

The Herbert taper is similair to the 30INT but you are going to have to machine them yourself or pay a fortune. Once set up it is not a problem just be prepared to make a few whilst you are at it.

You might find somethig in the history of Herbert's: **LINK**

Jo

Hi Jo,

Can I use a 30int chuck or do i need to do some alterations to it to make it work?
23 July 2013 at 09:49 #125278
matthew sowter
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Posted by Mike Young 2 on 22/07/2013 19:58:36:

You could also try Tony at lathes.co.uk for information on the machine ?

Mike

Hi Mike,

I spoke to Tony yesterday and unfortunately he does not have a manual for the Mill, however he has been able to find two pages in a catalogue that make reference to the Herbet No10s.
15 March 2019 at 17:15 #400567
Adam Harris
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Matthew I have private messaged you
15 March 2019 at 18:00 #400571
Pete Rimmer
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I have a 0V, it too had a proprietary taper with just 6 imperial collets so I sent the spindle to John S and he re-worked it to take R8 collets. Now I have no problem finding tooling.
15 March 2019 at 18:26 #400577
David Standing 1
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Posted by Adam Harris on 15/03/2019 17:15:52:

Matthew I have private messaged you

It will be interesting to see if he replies, his last post was six years ago
15 March 2019 at 18:28 #400578
Pete Rimmer
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Damn necro-thread. i didn't spot that either
13 June 2020 at 13:28 #479595
Emgee
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I was informed by the Machine Tool workshop where I bought the machine the spindle taper was an R0, similar style to R8 but smaller diameter on all dimensions, my machine came with a Clarkson collet chuck fitted to a suitable taper.

Herbert 0V is a great vertical milling machine, very heavily built with excellent quill on a massive spindle. Plenty of height table to spindle to accommodate rotary table + part for machining.

Emgee
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