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    Alan White 1
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      Formula for packing

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      #44826
      Alan White 1
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        @alanwhite1
        Can anyone supply me with the formula for calculating the packing to place on one jaw of a three jaw chuck in order to drill an off centre holein an eccentric?
        Thanks
        Alan
        #44828
        mgj
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          @mgj
          Yes, and its a nightmare to write up on a computer.
           
          page 13.12 of the Model Engineers Handbook – 3rd edition.
           
          Or use a 4 jaw.
          #44829
          JasonB
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            @jasonb
            You may also find it by looking back at a few recent back issues on line, it was covered not that long ago in “Post Bag”
             
            Jason
            #44831
            Michael Webb 1
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              @michaelwebb1
              One of the ways I have succesfully turned, or drilled an eccentric dia./hole is to turn a shouldered blank out of a piece of scrap material,of which can safely accomodate the eccentric offset  (half the value of the actual eccentric) . Then mount it in a milling machine for boring or drilling  half that  value of the required eccentric.When transferred back to the 3 jaw chuck,a prefect eccentric.Simples.This is providing you have a milling machine with a DRO to accurately position the offset.

              Edited By Michael Webb 1 on 06/11/2009 20:44:14

              Edited By Michael Webb 1 on 06/11/2009 20:46:28

              #44893
              Martin W
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                @martinw
                Is there any value in using a face plate. Fix a sacrificial plate to the surface and turn this surface until true then fix your eccentric to the plate lining up the hole centre using a wobbler then drill/turn to required dimension.
                 
                I think I have seen this in articles but as a relative novice I am open to correction as my recall may not be too brilliant .
                 
                Cheers
                 
                Martin
                #44896
                mgj
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                  @mgj
                  Getting a bit complicated?
                   
                  Put it in a 4 jaw, machine (what will be) the eccentric OD, plus any grooves etc. Put a DTI against one edge, and move it across the required throw.  Drill and bore – you now have the axle/crank bore.  Part off. Stick it on a mandrel, and turn any bosses needed.  Turn round and do the final face. Done.
                   
                   
                  #44900
                  Mark Dickinson
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                    @markdickinson21936
                    #45141
                    Alan White 1
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                      @alanwhite1
                      Thank you gentlemen I have now put it on my computer for quick calculation
                      Alan
                      #45174
                      Malcolm BEAK
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                        @malcolmbeak51569
                        Alan
                        I’m probably a bit late with this

                        The equation given in Model Engineers Handbook is:>>

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                        T = 1.5E[1-E/2D  3/8(E/D)3]>>

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                        E = the desired eccentricity>>

                        D = the OD of the material being gripped in the chuck>>

                        T = the thickness of the packing>>

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                        The portion of the equation in red is very small and can safely be ignored>>

                        Rather than work it out each time, it’s easiest to make up a spread sheet.>>

                         
                        Malcolm

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