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    Mark McKee
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      @markmckee47088

      Hello from Toronto, Canada.

      I am new to this site and came upon it while looking for more information on this lathe I bought. I had taken a mechanical engineering technician course at a college here in Canada in my youth and worked in a machine shop for some time. I don't work in that field anymore but have always been handy. Now in my mid life I am looking down the road at retirement and decided to start investing in some machines that will keep me active. I expect I will find lots of interesting posts here on your wonderful site.

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      #40624
      Mark McKee
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        @markmckee47088

        Bought a used lathe

        #431663
        Chris Evans 6
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          @chrisevans6

          Welcome along Mark, any thoughts on what you want to make or use the lathe for ?

          #431670
          Mark McKee
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            @markmckee47088

            Thanks for the welcome Chris. I don't have anything in mind for the near future. The machine does need some heavy cleaning and I will have to go over all it's functionality. I know I will need some parts and Im hoping I can find them here along with any advice people may have.

            Thanks again!!

            #431671
            Neil Wyatt
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              @neilwyatt

              Welcome to the forum Mark, I'm afraid we can't see your picture!

              Neil

              #431673
              David Noble
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                @davidnoble71990

                Hello Mark, whatever you decide to make, this is the place for advice. I've had loads 

                David

                Edited By David Noble on 03/10/2019 19:08:05

                #431674
                Mark McKee
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                  @markmckee47088

                  Hi Neil,

                  I tried linking the image from dropbox. Any advice on the best way to post images?

                  Thanks.

                  #431676
                  not done it yet
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                    @notdoneityet

                    Go to ‘Forums’ on black bar towards the top of the page, select ‘website FAQS’. First one.

                    #431677
                    Mark McKee
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                      @markmckee47088

                      Figured out the photo album. Here we go:

                      img_5758cropped.jpg

                      #431682
                      Emgee
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                        @emgee

                        Snap, Colchester Bantam 1600, useful sizemachine for ME modelling.

                        Emgee

                        #431738
                        Howard Lewis
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                          @howardlewis46836

                          Welcome Mark.!

                          You should get lots of help and advice on here, about your machine, and life in general. Even if some of it gets contentious at times.We all have our own hobby horses in the stableu, it this is a good place to visit, often.

                          Although it is interesting, educational, it does keeps me from making swarf!

                          Howard

                          #431805
                          Mark McKee
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                            @markmckee47088

                            Thanks for the welcome Howard,

                            Every perspective counts!!

                            #431965
                            Pete Rimmer
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                              @peterimmer30576

                              Hi Mark,

                              The Bantam is a fine machine, yours seems to be a 1600 which will have come with 2 speed 3 phase motor. If you have no 3 phase supply into your workshop that might be a minor stumbling block but not difficult to overcome.

                              I had a Bantam and I found that the two-pedestal style of support made it possible to put significant twist in the lathe bed just from having it stand on slightly uneven floor. When you have cleaned it up and decided where you will stand it, be sure to research how to 'level the bed' so you can fix it down nice and straight.

                              #432155
                              Mark McKee
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                                @markmckee47088

                                Hi Pete,

                                Thanks for the advice on the leveling. At this point I have no other choice but to leave it on the custom built skid I made for it. It will live in the garage, on the skid, on an uneven floor which I will try to shim as best I can and hope for the best.

                                It is a fine machine, but as you can see from all the photos, it has required a lot of clean up. The machine came with the taper attachment that the PO modified (destroyed) to create a template for a part they were running, ruining the taper guide dovetail and the tape guide follower dovetail. This also means it has the taper attachment cross slide screw installed and did not come with the original cross slide screw. Luckily I have found a "new old stock" replacement for a reasonable price in my area. I will be removing the taper attachment to get the cross slide working properly until I can make the broken/altered parts with a friends mill.

                                The machine came out of an automotive casting facility. The PO had installed an assortment of lockout screws to insure the spindle speed was fixed, feed rate was fixed, screw cutting was disabled, even the tail stock was limited in its travel by a pin installed in the front bed way, disgraceful. It was obvious the machine was used for a repeatable process by unskilled workers, not machinists. Such a shame to see a beautiful piece of machinery demoted to such a mundane task.

                                Continued in next post…

                                #432156
                                Mark McKee
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                                  @markmckee47088

                                  Continued…

                                  On the plus side, it seems to have come with the full set of change gears, the original Burnerd 3 jaw chuck with inside and outside set of jaws, original follow rest and original steady rest. I also measured the spindle run out and it shows less than 1 ten thousandth of an inch of movement.

                                  I plan to use a 2 hp 3 phase 240v 3000rpm motor and run it with a VFD. I will try to incorporate all the original switch functionality into the VFD so I get two speeds, forward and reverse, safety lockouts, etc

                                  Here are some photos from the result of 4 or 5 days of cleanup progress:

                                  Most of the old aluminum swarf, oil and old coolant has been removed, it was everywhere, almost a whole garbage bag full.

                                  First Clean 1.jpeg

                                  Apron and Saddle, back gibbs need adjustment.

                                  Apron and Saddle.jpeg

                                  Love the brass apron indicators, they were indistinguishable and covered by the same thickness of grime that you see on the rest of the apron. Now her personality is starting to come out.

                                  Beautiful Brass Saddle Dials.jpeg

                                  Compared to the image higher up in this post where the lower thread cutting plate was hidden by the thick grime, it shined up ok. Some of the black paint is starting to come off though.

                                  Cleaned Speed and Gear plates.jpeg

                                  The back of the machine where the motor had collected a bag full of swarf. Notice the amount of swarf on the underside of the taper attachment base slide in the lower part of this image.

                                  First backside cleaning motor removed .jpeg

                                  Even the gear train had swarf everywhere. Manged to clean it out well.

                                  img_5819.jpg

                                  The gear train cover, not yet cleaned.

                                  img_5820.jpg

                                  Disassembled the tail stock, cleaned, oiled and reassembled.

                                  Cleaned and oiled Tailstock.jpeg

                                  Disassembled the compound slide, removed the cross slide dial, cleaned and oiled.

                                  Compound slide and cross slide dial.jpeg

                                  Found the original Burnred 3 jaw chuck with both sets of jaws in the drawer, wrapped up and taped in a shop towel. So happy the machine came with this.

                                  Original Burnerd 3 Jaw cleaned.jpeg

                                  The cross slide and some tapper attachment parts. Notice in the bottom of the image one side of the dovetail on the tapper attachment has been milled away to produce a form template that the PO used to make repeatable parts. Butchering the tapper rig in the process.

                                  Butchered Taper Attachment.jpeg

                                  Stay tuned as the saga continues…

                                  #432159
                                  John Parry 5
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                                    @johnparry5

                                    Hi Great Lathe i have the same but the long bed version. I am in the process of fitting a Newall DRO to mine. I only problem i have had with mine is Suds getting in the feeds gearbox? And i am jealous of your taper turning attatchment. Have fun cleaning it up. John

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