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    Martin McCann
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      @martinmccann93892

      Hi All,

      I'm asking for suggestions, please, for an off-the-shelf, light-duty, rack & pinion.

      It's for my Misses to raise & lower the roof of her camper-van, which isn't motorised.

      The distance of travel is just under a metre, so a 1m rack would be perfect.

      The maximum load would be 25kg, so I reckon a rack based on 6-8mm square bar would be more than adequate in steel(?), or 15-20mm square in nylon or hard plastic.

      The tricky part could be the pinion. I'd like it to be held, fixed, onto the rack (except when screwed right off the end).

      I plan for her to to drive it up & down with her battery-powered electric drill, with the right bit coupled to the pinion.

      I'm not a mech-eng, so I haven't done any maths on this but my gut feel is that it's a viable plan. Any comments appreciated, especially where I might get the rack & pinion. I have access to a workshop, so I can adapt & improvise to a degree.

      Many thanks, Martin.

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      #40589
      Martin McCann
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        @martinmccann93892
        #421800
        vintage engineer
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          @vintageengineer
          #421807
          Chris Evans 6
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            @chrisevans6

            HPC are my go to, also look at Duval Gears. I think your 6/8mm square bar is a dream that will be flexible there will be no strength or any depth for the tooth form. Start thinking around 15x20mm.

            #421809
            magpie
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              @magpie

              A timing belt, a strip of metal, and some super glue.

              #421815
              Juddy
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                @juddy

                Hi Martin have a look at rack and pinion jacks such as these: **LINK**

                or something like a green house window opener like these: **LINK**

                #421816
                Samsaranda
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                  @samsaranda

                  I always use HPC for anything to do with gears, good products and excellent service.

                  Dave W

                  #421855
                  Ian S C
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                    @iansc

                    Find someone who sells parts for floor standing drill presses, The rack on them(talking of Rexon), is rubbish. A number of years ago I was working with a mate over hauling Willys Jeeps, and Doug the owner put the cylinder head of the Go Devil engine on the table of the drill press, a bit low, unlock the table height,BANG, oops. A new one was only about $NZ3, don't know about the pinion.

                    Ian S C

                    #421869
                    Clive Foster
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                      @clivefoster55965

                      An alternative way of doing the job might be to re-work one of the inexpensive 12 V electric linear actuators that can be found on E-Bay et al for £25 – £30 if 2 to 4 inches of travel will do. Basic idea is to replace the existing telescopic tube guide system with an external rail with a nut block running up and down it. Screw needs to be far longer. Either replace with standard threaded rod or trapezoidal thread lead screws aren't silly expensive. Maybe £10 – £15 per metre and as much again for nuts.

                      Looked into similar some years ago for a friend and planned to use a 3/4 square tube as the guide for a nylon sliding block with the original nut converted into an insert to take a longer version of the old screw. Plan A was to re-machine the end of the screw to sit into the standard gearbox. Plan B was to simply chop the original screw and couple it to the new one via UJ or similar coupling.

                      Darned if I know why the job was never done. Got some drawings based on re-working a Hiwin brand actuator on the computer. Used a 3 mm pitch by 11 mm Ø screw according to my drawings.

                      Clive

                      #421940
                      Martin McCann
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                        @martinmccann93892

                        Thank you all for these excellent suggestions. I couldn't have come to a better place for advice.

                        #421954
                        Tim Chambers
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                          @timchambers76147

                          Something like this perhaps?

                          linear actuator

                          #421958
                          Jon Lawes
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                            @jonlawes51698

                            The other day I saw a scrap built go-kart that used an interesting bodge as a rack and pinion; a straight piece of square rod for the rack with a short length of chain tack welded to the top. It certainly made me think.

                            #422128
                            John Duncker 1
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                              @johnduncker1

                              I meter of threaded rod. 1 nut welded to a bracket some swivelling allowance. I electric screwdriver. All cheap as chips.

                              Just hold the driver to stop it turning?

                              You will have side load issues with a rack.

                              #422136
                              Dave Halford
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                                @davehalford22513

                                Is this roof hinged on one side if so 2 gas struts would do it.

                                #422201
                                Ian S C
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                                  @iansc

                                  Perhaps a bike chain and sprocket, could even be motorized with a wiper motor, extend the worm wheel shaft so that you can fit a sprocket.

                                  On a similar line to Jon Lawes, I have tacked a chain around a steel disc to mesh with a sprocket. A rough and ready rack could be made with a bit of square tube with a row of suitable spaced holes, and a small sprocket from a bike, the holes could be drilled about 5 mm and squared.

                                  Ian S C

                                  #422257
                                  Martin McCann
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                                    @martinmccann93892

                                    More great suggestions. Many thanks to all of you.

                                    #422275
                                    Hollowpoint
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                                      @hollowpoint

                                      There's a few racks on ebay from old lathes about the size you are after. Might be worth a look. 👍

                                      #422278
                                      Clive Foster
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                                        @clivefoster55965

                                        A chain rack isn't a bodge. Correctly engineered and properly supported it's an excellent method of accurately transmitting motion. Frequently advocated where part circle movements are made as running a short length of chain around a part circle is probably easier than cutting gear teeth.

                                        Adcock Shipley used this type of construction to drive adns et the head tilt on versions of thier smaller vertical milles fitted out to make tooling for grinding lenses. A job that needs tob e accurate and easily done if you don't want to spend ages getting it dialed in. The one we had was certainly accurate and quite easy to use.

                                        Chain type rack is very low friction so, in vertical application, its necessary to control any tendency to run back.

                                        Clive

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