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25 May 2016 at 19:30 #240290
Ian Welford
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@ianwelford58739
message board is U/S with magazine icon overlying the address box.

Neil trying to message you but reply box has same issue, can some one please sort !
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25 May 2016 at 19:30 #39391
Ian Welford
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@ianwelford58739
25 May 2016 at 19:33 #240292
Michael Gilligan
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@michaelgilligan61133
What browser are you using, Ian ?

MichaelG.
25 May 2016 at 19:41 #240296
Martin King 2
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@martinking2
Had this issue briefly, now OK FireFox browser.

Martin
25 May 2016 at 19:56 #240300
JasonB
Moderator
@jasonb
Seems to be on IE

Edit. I have just replied to a couple of PM with the overlaid text and it was still usable.

Edited By JasonB on 25/05/2016 20:39:18
25 May 2016 at 20:22 #240307
Mike Bondarczuk
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@mikebondarczuk27171
Also showing the same configuration on Safari
25 May 2016 at 20:58 #240313
Steambuff
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@steambuff
Everything is OK for me …. Win 7 (64 bit) with IE 11 (64 bit)

Dave
25 May 2016 at 21:01 #240315
John Rudd
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@johnrudd16576
Using Safari on my iPad, couldnt even reply to a message sent to me, contacted sender using other means…( old indian smoke signals )
26 May 2016 at 11:42 #240368
Ian Welford
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@ianwelford58739
Im using IE Michael,

and its still not working today !

I can send new messages but trying to reply sends me to the subscription page, as I already subscribe it's Bl""dy irritating
26 May 2016 at 12:45 #240375
Katy Purvis
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@katypurvis79544
Hi all

If you are experiencing this problem, it is because the style sheet for the website has been cached by your browser.

Please clear your cache, and everything should be straight. This page tells you how to do this in most cases

If you use zoom settings or ad blockers, there may still be issues, but if you leave details I will try to help.

Edited By Katy Purvis on 26/05/2016 13:03:30
26 May 2016 at 13:14 #240380
Peter Krogh
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@peterkrogh76576
Well, this seems to be the only site I visit that has this sort of issue. I don't know *** about style sheets and caches but it seems that it's the site that needs fixing, not my browser!

Sorry to be so blunt….

Pete
26 May 2016 at 13:19 #240381
JasonB
Moderator
@jasonb
Just went into it in IE and did what Katy said and its now fine. Peter just click the refresh button at teh top of the browser. Basically the issue has been fixed on the site but your computer is still showing the old page as it makes things faster.

Edited By JasonB on 26/05/2016 13:21:01
26 May 2016 at 14:37 #240390
Martin 100
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@martin100
Caching of pages and their content can also be an 'invisible' function of your ISP which you may have little control over. As for it happening 'only here' I've seen similar issues on many sites from the very smallest to very high volume ones with many millions of pages served per day.
26 May 2016 at 15:22 #240394
Neil Wyatt
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@neilwyatt
Posted by Peter Krogh on 26/05/2016 13:14:05:

Well, this seems to be the only site I visit that has this sort of issue. I don't know *** about style sheets and caches but it seems that it's the site that needs fixing, not my browser!

Sorry to be so blunt….

Pete

Sorry Peter,

That isn't a fair comment, as it's not something any website can allow for.

It can affect any website. The style sheets tell your computer how to lay out each web page and your browser saves these to speed things up ('caching&#39 as it only needs to download the information specific to each page.

If the style sheets change but your computer hasn't recently updated the cached styles sheets, they won't match the page until it is forced to reload them or the saved cache time-expires and it reloads them automatically.

This can potentially affect any website, usually the errors are either so small you don't notice or so large you reload the page without thinking about it.

In this case the change didn't upset the entire layout, just one small feature.

The only ways to avoid this are (1) not to use style sheets and have a slow website or (2) never improve the website design… or at the user end turn of caching (which slows things down) or make the browser cache smaller so it turns over pages faster.

Neil
26 May 2016 at 16:33 #240406
Frances IoM
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@francesiom58905
or do what I do – turn off javascript + images (click on those you want to see) + turn off any site specified formating – result apart from certain javascript heavy sites which I usually ignore as the javascript is there to force more ads, is generally a more readable site using my choice of font + size which loads in very little time as no javascript is fetched and avoids most tracking by farcebook or google – it also is exactly what the inventor of the WWW actually envisaged but of course it doesn’t fit in with the advertisers and those like google who see their business in privatising public goods.
26 May 2016 at 16:58 #240410
Peter Krogh
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@peterkrogh76576
Posted by JasonB on 26/05/2016 13:19:46:

Just went into it in IE and did what Katy said and its now fine. Peter just click the refresh button at teh top of the browser. Basically the issue has been fixed on the site but your computer is still showing the old page as it makes things faster.

Edited By JasonB on 26/05/2016 13:21:01

OK, did that a few times but nothing has changed. I'm using Firefox 46.0.1 by the way. Is there another 'button' somewhere? I really know little about these things….

Pete
26 May 2016 at 17:08 #240415
Katy Purvis
Participant
@katypurvis79544
Hi Peter

Please try the following

Firefox
1. From the History menu, select Clear Recent History.
  If the menu bar is hidden, press Alt to make it visible.
2. From the Time range to clear: drop-down menu, select the desired range; to clear your entire cache, selectEverything.
3. Next to "Details", click the down arrow to choose which elements of the history to clear; to clear your entire cache, select all items. (Just choose cache here)
4. Click Clear Now.
5. Exit/quit all browser windows and re-open the browser.
26 May 2016 at 17:09 #240416
Peter Krogh
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@peterkrogh76576
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 26/05/2016 15:22:21:

Posted by Peter Krogh on 26/05/2016 13:14:05:

Well, this seems to be the only site I visit that has this sort of issue. I don't know *** about style sheets and caches but it seems that it's the site that needs fixing, not my browser!

Sorry to be so blunt….

Pete

Sorry Peter,

That isn't a fair comment, as it's not something any website can allow for.

It can affect any website. The style sheets tell your computer how to lay out each web page and your browser saves these to speed things up ('caching' as it only needs to download the information specific to each page.

If the style sheets change but your computer hasn't recently updated the cached styles sheets, they won't match the page until it is forced to reload them or the saved cache time-expires and it reloads them automatically.

This can potentially affect any website, usually the errors are either so small you don't notice or so large you reload the page without thinking about it.

In this case the change didn't upset the entire layout, just one small feature.

The only ways to avoid this are (1) not to use style sheets and have a slow website or (2) never improve the website design… or at the user end turn of caching (which slows things down) or make the browser cache smaller so it turns over pages faster.

Neil

Uh oh.. This sounds like a much more complicated thing…

I didn't mean to upset anyone Neil. Sorry if I did. Things computer never are as simple as they appear to me.

I've been looking in the corners of this Firefox, and tried Jasons suggestion as above, but nothing is jumping out at me that resembles a cache or the like. I think I should just ignore the little thing… I'm wary of messing with this stuff.

Pete
26 May 2016 at 17:17 #240420
Peter Krogh
Participant
@peterkrogh76576
Posted by Katy Purvis on 26/05/2016 17:08:41:

Hi Peter

Please try the following

Firefox
1. From the History menu, select Clear Recent History.
  If the menu bar is hidden, press Alt to make it visible.
2. From the Time range to clear: drop-down menu, select the desired range; to clear your entire cache, selectEverything.
3. Next to "Details", click the down arrow to choose which elements of the history to clear; to clear your entire cache, select all items. (Just choose cache here)
4. Click Clear Now.
5. Exit/quit all browser windows and re-open the browser.
Katy, just did all that but I'm not sure it changed anything. The text lines still overlap some, yet I can read them.

Pete

Edited By Peter Krogh on 26/05/2016 17:20:47
26 May 2016 at 17:17 #240421
Enough!
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@enough
Posted by Frances IoM on 26/05/2016 16:33:31:

……. google who see their business in privatising public goods.

Perhaps a question of terminology but it's always been my perception that Google exists to publicise private goods.
26 May 2016 at 19:18 #240428
Neil Wyatt
Moderator
@neilwyatt
Firefox 46.0.1:

F10 to show menu bar

Tools —> Options

When the options page appears select "Advanced" on the left had side

Under Cached web content click 'clear now'.

Neil
27 May 2016 at 13:03 #240505
John Rudd
Participant
@johnrudd16576
Ok,

I lifted this from another website part of the MTM group……

http://www.modelflying.co.uk

"I tried sending a PM to Nigel, but for some reason this site isn't working properly (at least not on my iPad) and many of the links are not responding."

So it doesnt appear unique to this website….

Conclusions? Well one for the IT crowd…,
27 May 2016 at 13:12 #240506
Katy Purvis
Participant
@katypurvis79544
This is true, it is currently an issue on here and Model Flying, and will also be an issue on the other websites when their stylesheets are updated today or next week. It doesn't affect all users, and the fix is to clear your browser cache. There is nothing actually wrong. It is just that some people's browsers are using a cached copy of the previous stylesheet, which is preventing the page from displaying correctly.

Please check here or google how to clear the cache in your browser/os if the page I've posted here doesn't cover your setup
27 May 2016 at 14:12 #240513
Neil Wyatt
Moderator
@neilwyatt
In Firefox the route I gave above clears the cache without losing the history, so I'd recommend it over the method given in that link.

Neil
27 May 2016 at 14:30 #240519
Peter Krogh
Participant
@peterkrogh76576
Clearing the cache seems to have eliminated the big problem to the point that there's not any functional interference on the page, for reading or button pushing.

And yes, the way Neil directed allows clearing the cache without messing with the other stuff which is what I was afraid to touch.

I appreciate all the assistance, and patience, as I'm certainly not a computer person.

Thanks,

Pete

Edited By Peter Krogh on 27/05/2016 14:32:05
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