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This topic has 18 replies, 11 voices, and was last updated 11 November 2020 at 10:58 by Neil Wyatt.

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16 August 2019 at 13:04 #424507
JimD
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@jimd42132
Hi all, not sure if this is the same for everyone but I cant view any of the archived issues from 277 back. I get an Adobe Flash error saying that it isn't up to date but the newer issues work ok.

EDIT: Apparently this is only on Chrome browser. Internet explorer seems to work ok.

Jim

Edited By JimD on 16/08/2019 13:06:09
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16 August 2019 at 13:04 #38527
JimD
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16 August 2019 at 13:10 #424508
JasonB
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@jasonb
Just tried it and I get the same problem will let Neil and the back room boffins know.

I often get the message but this time clicking on the "get adobe Flashplayer" goes no further.
16 August 2019 at 13:14 #424509
JimD
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@jimd42132
Cheers Jason.

Jim
16 August 2019 at 13:19 #424513
Neil Wyatt
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@neilwyatt
Working with Firefox.

We don't change anything with these archive issues, so it's probably some change in your browser – I had to re-tell Firefox to allow flash to run on this website, for example – typically happens whenever I update Firefox to a new version.

Check your permissions for Flash in Chrome, it may be blocking Flash on this site by default.

Neil
16 August 2019 at 13:39 #424518
Stuart Bridger
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@stuartbridger82290
Flash is notoriously insecure, which is why most browsers block it by default.
16 August 2019 at 13:44 #424519
JimD
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@jimd42132
It's not blocked by chrome, and newer issues of the mag work ok. Not sure really, was just bringing it to your attention.

Thanks
16 August 2019 at 14:05 #424523
AdrianR
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@adrianr18614
The latest versions of chrome come with an inbuilt version of flash that Google maintain to minimise the risk.

If you are using Chrome you will probably need to follow this guide to enable it.

Adrian
16 August 2019 at 14:13 #424524
JimD
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@jimd42132
Brilliant, that works a treat. Thanks Adrian.
16 August 2019 at 17:22 #424565
Vic
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@vic
Posted by Stuart Bridger on 16/08/2019 13:39:34:

Flash is notoriously insecure, which is why most browsers block it by default.

Yes agreed. I thought Flash was dead, why is anyone still using it?
16 August 2019 at 20:35 #424594
Merddyn’s Dad
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@merddynsdad
Because it is still better than HTML5 and Steve Jobbs at Apple decided he wouldn't support it on his systems, and the rest of the world follows Apple.
16 August 2019 at 20:44 #424597
Trevorh
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@trevorh
Google have announced that they are dropping Flash in 2020 – will no longer be supported or used by google
16 August 2019 at 21:04 #424599
Neil Wyatt
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@neilwyatt
Posted by JimD on 16/08/2019 13:44:21:

It's not blocked by chrome, and newer issues of the mag work ok. Not sure really, was just bringing it to your attention.

Thanks

The newer issues use HTML5 not Flash so they don't need a player.

Neil
16 August 2019 at 21:07 #424600
Neil Wyatt
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@neilwyatt
Posted by Steve Tyson on 16/08/2019 20:35:42:

Because it is still better than HTML5 and Steve Jobbs at Apple decided he wouldn't support it on his systems, and the rest of the world follows Apple.

No don't start this off again!. Half the users campaigned for years for use to change to HTML5 and when we did there was nearly a riot from the other half…

Plain fact is that in the long term you will need a legacy player to deal with Flash so it's not good for new content.

Neil
1 November 2020 at 13:13 #504704
Geoffrey Mowatt
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@geoffreymowatt36533
Just to add another spoon to the pot… Flash will in all likelihood self destruct at the end of the year. link: So how are ME/MEW going to justify charging people with new digital subscriptions and no flash player available for older issues in the vaults? I speak as a person for whom then digital part of the subscription is the main draw. And frankly, saying maintain a legacy player doesn't wash for me as the fact is that Flash is very vulnerable to software exploits/malware etc. Looks like ME/MEW's hand will be forced in the not too distant future. I will be happy to be corrected, but as a Linux, MAC and Windoze (when forced to) user I think things are diverse enough in the software department. Any suggestions for compliance gladly received.

Geoff
1 November 2020 at 13:21 #504707
JasonB
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@jasonb
They may well point you towards clause 18 of the T&Cs

Though I expect it will stay as is, you will still have simple access to the HTML5 issues and upto the individual if they want to find a way to view older issues

Edited By JasonB on 01/11/2020 13:24:34
1 November 2020 at 13:46 #504710
Frances IoM
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@francesiom58905
just to point out Neil’s posting of a few days ago that drew very few comments
https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=168785
1 November 2020 at 15:59 #504734
Colin Heseltine
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@colinheseltine48622
Is anyone aware of a third party flash player? My Wi-Fi network is based on Extreme Networks access points. These use flash for the GUI. This means me and lots of other commercial users will have difficulty making changes. There is a command line interface (CLI) but this need more thinking about to use it. I know Extreme are bringing out a temporary fix with an App based on Chrome which will provide flash access. Trying to get a copy at present. Hopefully HTML5 controlled version of the operating system will come out in not too distant future.

Colin
11 November 2020 at 10:58 #506732
Neil Wyatt
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@neilwyatt
This will become an increasing problem until and if the archive is rebuilt to all work with HTML5.

There are some alternatives here:

**LINK**

Neil
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