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    Neil Wyatt
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      @neilwyatt

      A reader has been in touch to ask me to remind readers of MEW that acetone has allow a low flashpoint and small amounts can easily lead to burns.

      Neil

       

      Edited By JasonB on 27/07/2019 16:46:05

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      Neil Wyatt
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        @neilwyatt
        #421140
        Robert Atkinson 2
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          @robertatkinson2

          Ordering quanties of it can also get you on a security watch list.

          Robert,

          #421141
          not done it yet
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            @notdoneityet

            Cleaning off nail varnish at the time? While lighting a fag?

            We used copious amounts in the laboratory for drying glassware – rinsed more than once and then dried with a compressed air line. We were more careful when supplies were short and we swapped to using methanol.

            #421150
            old mart
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              @oldmart

              When I was working, we had two polypropylene 30 litre tanks of acetone for first and second rinsing of aircraft sub assemblies which were tested with Skydrol hydraulic fluid. Skydrol in a phosphate ester fluid which is non flammable and used extensively in commercial aircraft. It is not a pleasant substance to work with.

              We never had a fire when I worked there, if the stuff had ignited, running away was the only option.

              #421155
              ChrisB
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                @chrisb35596

                Had a close shave with acetone at work, a sheetmetal worker was working on an engine thrust reverser grinding rivet stems. For some reason he had a plastic cup with acetone without a lid next to him. While grinding sparks flew into the cup and caught fire – he panicked and in trying to put out the fire ( which was small and confined to the cup) he kicked the cup and created a mini fireball under the wing! We were lucky the tanks had just been closed that same morning.. I wouldn't be here writing about this were they still open.

                #421167
                Nicholas Farr
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                  @nicholasfarr14254
                  Posted by not done it yet on 27/07/2019 17:26:03:

                  Cleaning off nail varnish at the time? While lighting a fag?

                  We used copious amounts in the laboratory for drying glassware – rinsed more than once and then dried with a compressed air line. We were more careful when supplies were short and we swapped to using methanol.

                  Hi, methanol, is that the one which burns with a shallow and almost transparent flame. This was another one of those chemicals used by the company I used to work for years ago. It was the only stuff to remove the resins that they used, from our spanners etc. when fixing the pumps, pipework and valves, had some in a ice cream tub once with some pump bits having a soak and a spark from the other side of the workshop must have found its way over, didn't realise it was burning till I noticed the whole rim of the tub slowly sinking down as methanol burns pretty hot. The company did once use acetone in their labs, but outlawed it on some health grounds.

                  Regards Nick.

                  #421170
                  Jon Lawes
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                    @jonlawes51698

                    Loads of aircraft engineers on this forum, I think we gravitate to this hobby.

                    #421171
                    Vic
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                      @vic

                      I replace the inserts in my Ten Pin Bowling balls as needed and after trimming with a knife they are smoothed off with Acetone. My last bottle is nearly empty so if anyone knows of a good source let me know. I suspect it will be an eBay job.

                      #421174
                      Robert Atkinson 2
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                        @robertatkinson2

                        Yes, pure methanol burns with a flame that is invisible in daylight. There is a video taken form a helicopter out there of a crashed tanker truck be sprayed with water by firefighters, suddnely the firefighters fall over for no apparent reason. The video then switches to the thermal camera image which shows a huge fireball.
                        MEK and Toluene are other solvents with fire hazards. Thy can be ignited by static generated by cleaning with a cloth.

                        Robert G8RPI.

                        #421178
                        Robert Atkinson 2
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                          @robertatkinson2

                          Fatal Acetone accident safety video

                          #421183
                          Nigel Graham 2
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                            @nigelgraham2

                            Used to use acetone regularly at work, because it will dissolve uncured synthetic resins (' Araldite ' and the like). It won't touch the cured resin.

                            Apart from tool-cleaning, and degreasing the work-pieces, it was necessary when we glued together stacks of individual parts, in jigs with large compression-screws.

                            Acetone was the only solvent to my knowledge at least, and the only one we used anyway, that would clean off the adhesive oozing from the compressed joints, whilst not harming anything; and with due care, it is relatively safe to handle in the modest amounts we used. (Lots of ventilation, suitable gloves and of course no ignition sources nearby.)

                            #421185
                            pgk pgk
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                              @pgkpgk17461

                              Lidl regularly have their all purpose thinner on sale. It's mostly acetone and Mrs begged some as nail varnish remover.

                              #421190
                              Metalhacker
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                                @metalhacker

                                You can buy 1 litre bottles of acetone in any french supermarket or diy store. Freely available there!

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                                  @formermember32069

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                                  #421196
                                  Ian Johnson 1
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                                    @ianjohnson1

                                    Yep! go to Lidl (UK) for your Acetone, I bought a 1 litre tin of the stuff the other week, Lot better than buying the little bottles of expensive nail varnish remover.

                                    Ian

                                    #421209
                                    colin wilkinson
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                                      @colinwilkinson75381

                                      Nobody has mentioned adding it to petrol to increase mpg. Lots of info on web. I added two stroke to my old diesel, 300cc to 60lt of diesel , definitely ran smoother and quieter with small increase in mpg. Could not see any improvement with a few cc of Acetone but others have. Supposed to reduce surface tension in droplets from injectors , giving better combustion. Colin

                                      #421214
                                      Blue Heeler
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                                        @blueheeler

                                        Not sure if this is a good or bad thing, but you can buy it in 4L containers in any hardware store in Australia.

                                        #421221
                                        Sandgrounder
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                                          @sandgrounder

                                          I've used quite a bit of acetone in the past fitting out a GRP boat, one thing I've noticed now that I don't use it very often is that the polythene containers can deteriorate and start splitting after a year or so, but not as I would have thought at the bottom which is contact with the liquid, but the top in contact with the vapour.

                                          #421223
                                          Blue Heeler
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                                            @blueheeler

                                            ^ I've noticed the same.

                                            #421228
                                            Geoff Theasby
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                                              @geofftheasby

                                              Acetone is readily available here in UK, in particular from the Ladysave chain, as nail varnish remover.

                                              #421229
                                              Neil Wyatt
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                                                @neilwyatt

                                                Acetone is easy to get as nail vanish remover, but there is an acetone-free version.

                                                It's a very useful solvent because of its low toxicity – it's approved as a food additive and the LD50 in rats is about 6,000mg per kilo, which is a huge amount.

                                                Much lower quantities of vapour can cause respiratory failure, especially in children.

                                                The hazard is the flammability of the vapour.

                                                Neil

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                                                  @formermember32069

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                                                  #421236
                                                  Clive Hartland
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                                                    @clivehartland94829

                                                    I was told to provide waste bins for oily rags so turned to the metal basher and asked him to make some bins. He went ahead and used empty anti freeze drums about 20/30 liter size. Next thing I heard a bang and he came running out of the shop, he had no injuries but had started cutting the end of the drum with oxy/aceteline torch which of course ignited the remains of the antifreeze in the tin. I then introduced him to a cold chisel and a hammer.The drum he was working on was ballooned out and split.

                                                    #421239
                                                    Clive Hartland
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                                                      @clivehartland94829

                                                      One other inident with Ether occured causing death, a worker (female) employed in our Singapore facility managed to ignite about 2 ounces of Ether which was used to clean optics. She died in hospital that night. having been enveloped in a cloud of flame, she had inhaled the flame. and it had damaged her lungs.

                                                      The amount of Ether was within the permit allowed on the bench so it was not thought to be dangereous.

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