Posted by Michael Gilligan on 15/10/2022 07:44:20:
Posted by Hopper on 15/10/2022 02:22:19:
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One tip I learned from old time Harley-Davidson racers when assembling their flywheels with tapered crank pins is to wash the tapers with distilled water before assembly. The factory race team always reckoned that degreasers leave a film and solvents including alcohol leave traces of salts on the tapers that can interfere with the fit. Seems to work for me.
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A serious question, if I may, Hopper [and please resist the temptation to play that old ‘Angels on the head of a pin’ record]
Were those water-washed tapers meticulously dried immediately before actual assembly, or were they [intentionally, or otherwise] left slightly damp ?
The case against the other fluids is good, but I’m intrigued by the use of distilled water
It would be interesting, and perhaps informative, to study an old assembly and look for microscopic rusting.
It would of course be nice to think that the surfaces would wring together like Jo Blocks, but I doubt that … it seems more likely that rust [at a barely detectable level] would be acting rather like a Loctite Retainer does.
MichaelG.
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Pedantic Note: __ other brands of ‘anaerobic’ retainers are available, but I referenced Loctite specifically to avoid using the word [which refers to the curing mechanism rather than the retaining mechanism]
They are dried with clean air or lint-free cloth before assembly.
Chances of rust developing in the hot oil-filled crankcase of a racing motorcycle engine that is rebuilt between each meeting are zero to none.
The tapered crankpins are drawn into the tapered holes in the crankshaft flywheels by large nuts on very fine threads outboard of the small end of the taper. So no wringing, just wedging action.
Some Harley engines with hundreds of horsepower in nitro drag racing bikes still use tapered crank pins. They are regarded by many as superior to pressed together cranks.
Later model production Harleys that changed over to pressed-in parallel crankpins as a cost saving measure suffer from crankshaft "creep" as they do not grip as well as the old tapered pins. For performance work, the parallel pins have to be TIG welded in position to stop them moving. That is even with a 6 thou interference "crush" fit that takes a 100 ton press to assemble.
Edited By Hopper on 15/10/2022 10:15:50