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  • #36974
    Michael Gilligan
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      #613730
      Michael Gilligan
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        @michaelgilligan61133

        Sorry for putting this in The Tea Room, but there isn’t a Coffee Bar topic available

        Can anyone recommend a compact coffee grinder that works well ?

        … by that, I mean one that grinds beans into a fine powder.

        I currently use a Bodum 5678, which is about the right size, but doesn’t produce a good powder unless I wave it about to re-distribute the beans !

        It is also ridiculously heavy … being a flimsy little machine wrapped in a shiny die-cast shell and is difficult to empty into my small cafetière. [no, I don’t like it much]

        The size and capacity are about right for my needs, but the performance and handling are not.

        MichaelG.

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        P.S. __ the current equivalent [sans the heavy overcoat] is probably this:

        **LINK**

        https://www.bodum.com/gb/en/11160-01uk-3-bistro

        … so don’t bother recommending that one

        #613734
        Howi
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          @howi

          I have one almost identical but under a different name.

          That type of grinder will NOT produce a fine powder, despite what the advertising says, it is ok for coarse or medium grind but that type of blade grinder cannot produce a fine grind, for that you need the type that uses ceramic grinding wheels.

          If, as you say, you are using a cafetiere then you do not need a fine grind, medium grind is ideal.

          The pressure type of coffee machines (the ones used in cafe's etc) does need a fine grind, in order to extract as much coffee flavour out of the beans.

          When using a cafetiere, the strength of the coffee beans is more important, I try for a high strength rating of 5 or more if used to produce cappachino or latte style coffee, anything below that strength and you don't get a full flavour coffee – all my opinion of course, others may differ.

          #613735
          Kiwi Bloke
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            @kiwibloke62605

            Agreed – fine is best reserved for for espresso.

            How about an old-fashioned, hand-cranked Spong? No electrickery bits to fail, and the built-in failure time limit must be a century, at least!

            #613741
            Michael Gilligan
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              @michaelgilligan61133

              Howi

              I am only using the cafetière to economise on space in a very small kitchen

              I drink my coffee at ‘espresso’ strength, but am obliged to improvise: I usually pour one small shot and leave the rest to go cold, thus extracting all I can from the [excessively] coarse grind.

              … I am currently using too many beans

              MichaelG.

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              Edited By Michael Gilligan on 16/09/2022 10:05:35

              #613744
              Michael Gilligan
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                @michaelgilligan61133
                Posted by Howi on 16/09/2022 09:34:14:

                … cannot produce a fine grind, for that you need the type that uses ceramic grinding wheels.

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                Which gets us back to the opening question …

                Can anyone recommend a compact coffee grinder that works well ?

                … by that, I mean one that grinds beans into a fine powder.

                MichaelG.

                #613751
                Kiwi Bloke
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                  @kiwibloke62605

                  I did! Spong!

                  #613753
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    @michaelgilligan61133
                    Posted by Kiwi Bloke on 16/09/2022 10:29:19:

                    I did! Spong!

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                    Thanks .. but how compact are they ?

                    … It’s O.K. that was just a rhetorical question; I will investigate.

                    MichaelG.

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                    Mmm __ even the Robert Welch one might not fit the available space sad

                    Edited By Michael Gilligan on 16/09/2022 10:36:35

                    #613758
                    pgk pgk
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                      @pgkpgk17461

                      Something sold as a spice grinder or coffee and spice grinder should give a finer grind. Coffee is a personal thing but I gave up bothering with bean grinding or high strength variants or even long duration perculation etc. Currently quite happy with the rich flavour of Lidl Kenyan with a short stand time in cafetiere.. can always increase amount. It's economical is excellent IMO and the grind stays fresh so long as well folded over and a decent bulldog clip.

                      Even more kitchen space saved?

                      #613761
                      Ady1
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                        @ady1

                        I find Nescafe very good, no mess, nice taste

                        mmmmmm

                        #613762
                        Martin Kyte
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                          @martinkyte99762

                          Mortar and Pestle?

                          regards Martin

                          #613766
                          gary
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                            @gary44937

                            as said above a blade type grinder is no use for a fine grind. i use a mallita mollino which can be adjusted to suit and has grinding wheels. it is about six years old and still working great. when i started looking for a good grinder i got a shock at the cost of some of them. good luck michael.

                            #613775
                            peak4
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                              @peak4

                              I've had a Nemox Lux for several years, which I picked up cheaply off eBay as it was an unbranded machine. Same factory, but no brand name on it; I'd highly recommend one, but the footprint might be a bit large, as well as the price.
                              I've just been looking for an advert, but was a tad surprised that this is the cheapest, with the full price being £200(ish)
                              https://storam.co.uk/product/nemox-muhle-lux-kaffeemuhle-edelstahl/

                              On a more reasonable budget, as well as having a smaller footprint, I picked up an old KRUPS GVX231 Expert Burr Grinder from a local charity shop for a couple of quid to use in the workshop.
                              https://www.krups.co.uk/COFFEE-GRINDERS-AND-FROTHERS/COFFEE-GRINDERS/KRUPS-GVX231-Expert-Burr-Grinder-Black-/p/1500813215

                              I'd be happy enough to buy a brand new one if I was in the market for another machine.
                              The disadvantage for me, is that it grinds into its own little caddy, which I then need to transfer to the espresso scoop.
                              Currently on offer via Amazon though other sources are obviously available.
                              https://www.amazon.co.uk/Krups-GVX231-Expert-Burr-Grinder/dp/B0002H2IOM/ref=asc_df_B0002H2IOM

                              It's a Burr grinder, rather than blade, and does go fairly fine, though I'd say not as fine as I'd prefer for a Turkish/Greek/Syrian Cezve pot. For the latter, I still use an old cylindrical brass hand grinder Jane's mum got somewhere in the former Yugoslavia in the '70s; it was new at the time and take cardamom pods in with the beans OK. I bought one in Syria, but its burrs are well worn now, so another workshop project on the shelf for another day.
                              https://www.amazon.co.uk/Solid-Brass-Pepper-Handmade-Greece/dp/B06Y19Z6GP/ref=asc_df_B06Y19Z6GP

                              Bill

                              #613777
                              Paul Rhodes
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                                @paulrhodes20292

                                Agree with PGK.

                                #613796
                                Michael Gilligan
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                                  @michaelgilligan61133

                                  Thanks for the Krups reference, Bill yes

                                  MichaelG.

                                  #613806
                                  Mick B1
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                                    @mickb1

                                    I've found that cheap blade grinders are perfectly capable of producing a dust-fine grind if that's what you want. My objection to them is that the friction of the blade through the grounds locally overheats them and 'darkens' the flavour.

                                    Nevertheless they're cheap, widely available, and able to produce a drinkable grind if you run them in bursts with a couple of seconds' cooling-rest between, and stop when the biggest grounds are about sugar-grain sized.

                                    I'm unhappy with the length of time this takes, but unwilling to pay the higher price for a burr-grinder until I can see one that works to my liking – but it's very rare to see one in a shop rather than online, less still at a sensible price. All of which means that up to now I've more-or-less decided it's easier to live with the blade grinder.

                                    So many things in engineering end up being a compromise…

                                    blush

                                    Guess that's because nothing is ever perfect, nor can it be.

                                     

                                    Edited By Mick B1 on 16/09/2022 16:33:51

                                    #613809
                                    peak4
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                                      @peak4
                                      Posted by Mick B1 on 16/09/2022 16:27:42:

                                      ………………but it's very rare to see one in a shop rather than online, less still at a sensible price. …………………..

                                      Edited By Mick B1 on 16/09/2022 16:33:51

                                      Currys list quite a few, including the Krupps one I mentioned earlier, but not sure how many are displayed in store, rather than delivered to store for collection.
                                      https://www.currys.co.uk/appliances/coffee-machines/coffee-accessories/coffee-grinders

                                      Bill

                                      #613822
                                      Mikelkie
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                                        @mikelkie

                                        My SPONG & CO works well still probably 80 plus years old!!

                                        #613828
                                        pgk pgk
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                                          @pgkpgk17461

                                          Off grinder topic coffee comments.

                                          I almost bought a Jamaican coffee plantation (as in had the documents and decided not to sign). Although that was low slopes Red Mountain growing Robusta rather than the purist high blue mountain Arabica. Jamaica has widened the areas they consider Blue mountain for higher yield. There used to be one small independent high blue mountain grower one could order from directly but most goes to the government intervention buying.

                                          For folk old enough to recall tins of Lyons ground coffee – they no longer make that but do sell coffee bags. My wife favours 'Go-Joe' in compostable bags (but non-recyclable individual outers).

                                          Presumably real aficionados who can't afford Kopi Luwak might consider swallowing coffee cherries and straining their faeces….

                                          Douwe Egberts Instant comes in useful jars. The lids fit my small ride-on mower tank as a replacement lid. Removal of the nylon seal allows the jars to be used as easy kitchen storage (lentils, nuts etc). With the seals they work quite well as jars for making flavoured gins (currants, damson etc). The trick is to remove the seal. apply it first deforming it to extract as much air as possible before refitting the glass top. That brand is occasionally available as double-sized adding to kitchen storage options (pasta etc)

                                          pgk

                                          #613836
                                          Andy Stopford
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                                            @andystopford50521

                                            I have an older version of this:

                                            Burr Coffee Grinder (CCG2)

                                            Pricey, but still going strong after 20 years' daily use. It's a burr type and produces the fine grind required by my commercial espresso machine.

                                            #613841
                                            Nealeb
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                                              @nealeb

                                              I use a similar Dualit to Andy, again with an espresso machine. I found the spinning blade grinder to be too unpredictable – the Dualit is a "press the button and it's done" thing. And anyway, I broke the blade trying to grind something too hard for it. Must admit, though, I'm not really a coffee gourmand – just someone who drinks a lot of the stuff!

                                              On a related topic – I have a coffee plant in my hall that is absolutely covered in coffee berries, but I have no idea when they are supposed to be picked. Would like to brew my own-grown and roasted coffee at least once, just to say I had done it!

                                              #613845
                                              Michael Gilligan
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                                                @michaelgilligan61133
                                                Posted by Andy Stopford on 16/09/2022 20:29:06:

                                                I have an older version of this:

                                                Burr Coffee Grinder (CCG2)

                                                Pricey, but still going strong after 20 years' daily use. It's a burr type and produces the fine grind required by my commercial espresso machine.

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                                                Thanks, Andy

                                                It says all the right things … but it doesn't exactly look compact

                                                … or is that a very small coffee-cup beside it ?

                                                Give me a clue … what diameter is that lovely burr grinder insert ?

                                                MichaelG.

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                                                Edit: __ it’s O.K.  I found the dimensions: 

                                                • Size: 19 x 14 x 27 cm

                                                surprise

                                                 

                                                Edited By Michael Gilligan on 16/09/2022 21:21:50

                                                #613849
                                                Andy Stopford
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                                                  @andystopford50521

                                                  Oh dear, it's put on a lot of weight, or at least bulk, since they made mine, even though it does seem to be the same thing under the skin

                                                  #613852
                                                  Michael Gilligan
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                                                    @michaelgilligan61133
                                                    Posted by Andy Stopford on 16/09/2022 21:37:31:

                                                    Oh dear, it's put on a lot of weight, or at least bulk, since they made mine, even though it does seem to be the same thing under the skin

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                                                    So perhaps my mission is to find an older one in good condition.

                                                    MichaelG.

                                                    #613854
                                                    Andy Stopford
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                                                      @andystopford50521

                                                      I'll put a photo up tomorrow to give an idea of what it looks like, and the size

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