Men: Football's coming home…
60 years later,

Women: don't bother, we'll get it ourselves…..

Robert.

Congrats to the Lionesses, dont think the lad's will go far if they continue to play the style they have been playing !

H

I am surprised in these woke days and the attempted removal of gender specific nouns and pronouns they are still to be called 'Lionesses'. It seems 'actresses' have now to be referred to as 'actors' and we now have police officers instead of policemen and policewomen etc., although I don't think we ever had 'engineeresses'. Perhaps its different in sport?

I have never watched a football game nor do I understand what is going on but congratulations to the Lionesses on their achievement.

Mike

Woke appears to mean different things to different people and sometimes might be seen as social justice in reverse.

Some might think it’s (perhaps a minority) trying to dictate the rights of themselves over others as in we want to be allowed to call ourselves X but we will also decide what you will be called.

Politicians also regularly hijack things like sporting victories for their own ends so taking a pop at them and their swinging opinions seems fair game to me.

IMHO.

I make a point of trying not to think about women with pen…. whatever Piers was on about … while I lie awake at night.

Shame to see a great sporting moment co-opted into the "culture wars" for the sake of manufactured outrage to sell Uncle Rupert's newspapers though. Congrats to the Lionesses I say. Great stuff.

Edited By Hopper on 02/08/2022 12:23:04

Well, they could not be the Lions as there is already a pride of them… but as a male contributor to Woman's Hour recently pointed out, in the real feline-maximus world it's the lion-esses who do the hunting, and in teams!

(See Robert A's observation on "it's coming home", above…)

What's that phrase, bread and circuses?

Rob

I don't know about Womans Hour, just visit any town or city after closing time on a weekend and you'll see it in action.