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  • #99524
    Niloch
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      @niloch

      The late George Daniels was undoubtedly the most famous horologist of recent times having had one of his escapements adopted by Omega.

      Interested members may care to visit:

      http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2012/george-daniels-so-l12313/overview.html?cmp=L12313_1112_1_SALexample1_event_button1%3Cbr/%3E

      for a chance to buy one of his time pieces. Hover momentarily over the thumbnail images when, in most instances, a bar should appear giving a guide price. Remember the buyer's premium and the subsequent VAT.

      Please form an orderly queue, no undignified stampeding!

      Edited By Niloch on 27/09/2012 20:41:51

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      #3646
      Niloch
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        @niloch

        Sotheby’s auction of his effects

        #99540
        Michael Gilligan
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          @michaelgilligan61133

          Thanks for posting the link Niloch … We can all dream !!

          At least all the proceeds are destined to do good.

          MichaelG.

           

          P.S.

          The BHI's tribute is available here.

          Edited By Michael Gilligan on 27/09/2012 22:20:53

          #99544
          Ian P
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            @ianp

            Seems a pity that this collection is going to be split up. George Daniels truly was an interestng person. I suppose his workshop and equipment is going to be sold off too, now that the cars have gone (his cameras are going to be auctioned in Hong Kong soon).

            GD is just one of the persons who talk about their lives and experiences on this website, I am in awe of what some of these people have done.

            Ian

            **LINK**

            Edit.

            This editor creates the links which I suppose helps with the 'text over adverts' problem, but its not very intelligent with the result that there is no clue as to what one is being linked to. In this case its a website called 'Web of Stories'.

            PS

            Normally I avoid clicking on unamed links as they have the look of spam!  

            Edited By Ian Phillips on 27/09/2012 22:38:11

            #99552
            Niloch
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              @niloch
              Posted by Ian Phillips on 27/09/2012 22:32:23:

              I suppose his workshop and equipment is going to be sold off too,

              I don't think so, see here:**LINK**

              #99565
              Ian P
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                @ianp

                >Well that's relief. At least it will be used and appreciated.

                I have had a quick look at some of the Roger Smith videos and its good to see the techniques that previously I only read about.

                In one video after filing the watch hands to shape he used 'coarse' (30 micron!) abrasive film to start polishing them.

                Ian

                #99567
                Michael Gilligan
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                  @michaelgilligan61133

                  Ian,

                  Try to get a look at George Daniels' book "Watchmaking"

                  MichaelG.

                  #99572
                  Ian P
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                    @ianp
                    Posted by Michael Gilligan on 28/09/2012 09:09:23:

                    Ian,

                    Try to get a look at George Daniels' book "Watchmaking"

                    MichaelG.

                    His book was reprinted recently and I bought a copy (read cover to cover twice but I still pick it and read chunks again). It was in the book that I learnt a lot about watchmaking engineering, the videos add to the knowledge.

                    Ian

                    #99611
                    Michael Gilligan
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                      @michaelgilligan61133

                      Ian,

                      Apologies … I misunderstood

                      MichaelG.

                      #99616
                      Ian P
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                        @ianp

                        Michael

                        I must have lost the plot somewhere, because I can't work out what you misunderstood or why you apologised! Maybe its because I have spent too many hours today watching the Roger Smith and G Daniels videos, all absolutely fascinating.

                        Ian

                        #99620
                        Michael Gilligan
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                          @michaelgilligan61133

                          Ian,

                          At the risk of labouring it …

                          You mentioned the videos, and I posted "if you like those, then you will like this" … only to find that you already had the book [and therefore probably know more than I had assumed].

                          MichaelG.

                          #105115
                          Michael Gilligan
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                            @michaelgilligan61133

                            An update, for those who were wondering …

                            The sale reached a total figure of £8,285,139

                            Ref: Horological Journal, December 2012, pp542-543

                            MichaelG.

                            #105122
                            Ian P
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                              @ianp

                              I originally wondered what would happen to the proceeds of his estate as he had little if any family. Now I see that a significant amount of money has been bequeathed by him to set up an educational fund for the benefit of employed and self employed horologists to further their careers.

                              Ian

                              #105131
                              Bazyle
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                                @bazyle

                                I missed this thread the first time round. Non horologists might be interested to know that he once started a little operation making wheel cutting engines that eventually morphed onto Chronos.

                                #105133
                                Ian P
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                                  @ianp

                                  Bazyle

                                  I have a feeling that Chronos was around before George was born. I seem to remember reading in a clockmaking book that they made clockmaking equipment when English watchmaking was in its heyday.

                                  I might be wrong, it might not have been the same Chronos, but GD make no mention of it in his talks on this absolutely brilliant website. The link below is to the first of 32 (short) episodes.

                                  http://www.webofstories.com/play/10679?o=MS

                                  Ian

                                  Edited By Ian Phillips on 30/11/2012 21:34:09

                                  #105271
                                  roy entwistle
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                                    @royentwistle24699

                                    The originator of Chronos was Eliot Issacs it was he who designed the wheel cutting engine It was serialised in Clockmaker magazine @ 1991/2 I made one and still use it

                                    Eliot sold Chronos off I think in the eighties

                                    #105284
                                    Sub Mandrel
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                                      @submandrel

                                      I always wondered why it was called Chronos but didn't seem to sell and specialised clock tools.

                                      Neil

                                      #105290
                                      Bazyle
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                                        @bazyle

                                        Thanks for the correction. I knew it was someone significant in Horology and got he wrong man.

                                        Try again. Elliot Isaacs started it with a friend to sell the the wheel cutting engine. After a while he ducked out and in the early '80's it was just starting to branch out of purely horology and I bought my Hobbymat from them in their sort of backyard shop/shed.

                                        #105297
                                        Ian P
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                                          @ianp
                                          Posted by roy entwistle on 02/12/2012 16:23:28:

                                          The originator of Chronos was Eliot Issacs it was he who designed the wheel cutting engine It was serialised in Clockmaker magazine @ 1991/2 I made one and still use it

                                          Eliot sold Chronos off I think in the eighties

                                          I am not conversant with the Chronos wheel cutting engine but does it have something special about it? To my knowledge horologists have used, made, and bought machines for the purpose of making gears for hundreds of years.

                                          Does anyone know when Eliot Issacs founded Chronos?

                                          Ian

                                          #105342
                                          roy entwistle
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                                            @royentwistle24699

                                            In the nineties you couldn't buy one anywhere

                                            Whilst we are amongst 'clockies' does any one know how to remove the gunge left after a clock has been lierally soaked in wd40. It's like varnish I've tried soaking in washing soda and also Paraffin

                                            #105431
                                            Billy Mills
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                                              @billymills

                                              Roy

                                              According to the MDS for WD40 it is white spirit, light machine oil and a perfume. Perhaps the WD40 has attacked a previous coating ? Petrol might get it off but you do need to be careful…

                                              Billy.

                                              #105468
                                              Sub Mandrel
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                                                @submandrel

                                                According to Wikipedia they have permission to be vague on their datasheets – only listing the safety critical information. there are other 'secret' ingredients.

                                                Neil

                                                #105521
                                                roy entwistle
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                                                  @royentwistle24699

                                                  I've tried petrol, i'vve tried Hammerite thinners, I've even tried another coat of wd40 it's like glue

                                                  #105530
                                                  Ian P
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                                                    @ianp

                                                    Roy

                                                    You don't say what kind of clock you have (I have jumped to conclusions and eliminated it being digital!) or whether the sticky deposits are external or actually on the working parts.

                                                    If its the latter I doubt there are short-cuts and the only options is to dismantle and clean the parts individually, more or less overhauling the clock.

                                                    Ian

                                                    #105531
                                                    roy entwistle
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                                                      @royentwistle24699

                                                      Ian Thanks It's a long case Ive dismantled it and the deposit is only on the brass I'm assuming it could be a reaction to either the brass or components thereof

                                                      Roy

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