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    JimmieS
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      @jimmies

      My granddaughter will soon be starting her 'GCSE' year and is thinking of making a harmonograph as her practical project. Any advice, guidance and/or hints on the project would be much appreciated

      Jim

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      JimmieS
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        #654466
        Michael Gilligan
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          @michaelgilligan61133

          Vague ‘folk-memory’ tells me that there was [once upon a time, I know not when] a constructional article in Model Engineer.

          MichaelG.

          #654473
          Anonymous

            Go here and download the March 1952 edition of Practical Mechanics (and any others that take you fancy). It was also published in one of the (two) Practical Mechanics How to Make it Books.

            #654474
            Speedy Builder5
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              @speedybuilder5

              its all out there. The difficult bit is not to plagiarise anything you find on the net.

              Harmonograph

              #654480
              noel shelley
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                @noelshelley55608

                One was shown at the midland mex a few years ago, and it was I think on The tube. Dubious engineering then add harmonograph might find it. Noel.

                #654492
                Dick H
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                  @dickh

                  At risk of suggesting the blindingly obvious, try searching Harmonograph. One of the links Model Engineer 1960 vol 3087, p.300 even has plans for a pendulum version.

                  #654504
                  DiogenesII
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                    @diogenesii

                    A useful historical discussion /instructions here;

                    1920-1930.com.. ..Things To Make.. ..Harmonographs..

                    #654506
                    Michael Gilligan
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                      @michaelgilligan61133
                      Posted by Dick H on 30/07/2023 22:31:58:

                      […]

                      Model Engineer 1960 vol 3087, p.300 even has plans for a pendulum version.

                      .

                      I guess that would be the one I half-recalled

                      MichaelG.

                      #654519
                      Journeyman
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                        @journeyman

                        I can remember making harmonographs at school to show off on an open day (an awful lot of years ago). Made two different versions, one with two pendulums and one with a compound pendulum. The twin pendulum version had a wooden frame, basically a plank with two square holes in. Tthe pendulums were simply steel rod about 3/8" dia 30" below the pivot and about 6" above. The pivots were fabricated from steel bar and rod to form a collar which clamped to the pendulum rod by a bolt in a tapped hole. The pivots were knife edges located in a groove made as i recall by simply filing the edge of a steel bar and a groove cut on a shaper. the bar was brazed onto the collar before drilling the centre hole through the collar and bar. Large lumps of 2" rod were drilled through for the weights again just a tapped hole for a bolt to allow adjustment up and down the rod. The fixed side of the pivot was fixed to a plate which fitted to the frame.

                        One of the pendulums carried a table fixed to the top and the other a rod to hold the pen suitably counterbalanced. The pendulum with the table swung fore and aft whilst the pendulum with the pen swung left and right. By suitably adjusting the weight up and down different swing periods could be set up.

                        The single compound pendulum worked much the same but with a shorter main pendulum with another bob on a short rod suspended at the end of the main pendulam rod by means of a short length of fine chain. The arm with the pen was fixed to the table and just pivoted up and down.

                        Both machines worked quite well as I recall and produced a suitable selection of Lissajous figures duly affixed to the classroom wall. All good fun and I might even have learned something from the exercise. I least I can still remember the basics after nearly 60 years.

                        John

                        P.S. Saw a harmonograph being demonstrated at The Midlands Show in 2018

                        Found a link to a Video of the one at Midlands *** LINK ***

                        Edited By Journeyman on 31/07/2023 09:46:59

                        Edited By Journeyman on 31/07/2023 09:49:40

                        #654524
                        Nicholas Farr
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                          @nicholasfarr14254

                          Hi, I've got a copy of the Practical Mechanics of March 1952, which is one of bundle of those that my father bought.

                          Regards Nick.

                          #654539
                          Bazyle
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                            @bazyle

                            Couple of points.
                            Make the weights out of water bottles so that there is less bulk to move and store and adding a variable.
                            Don't make the bearings too low friction so they just go on for ever. Children will want things to come to an end fairly quickly.

                            #654593
                            Anonymous
                              Posted by Bazyle on 31/07/2023 12:00:20:

                              Don't make the bearings too low friction so they just go on for ever. Children will want things to come to an end fairly quickly.

                              … not to mention that if the friction (bearings and writing point) is too low you won't get those nice harmonograph patterns. It'll just keep scribing the same path over and over.

                              #654622
                              Ed Dinning 1
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                                @eddinning1

                                Hi, there were a couple of designs in the 9/10 set and supermodels leaflets associated with Meccano in the 40's/ 50's.

                                These may be available on line

                                Ed

                                #654632
                                Nigel Graham 2
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                                  @nigelgraham2

                                  If the harmonograph cited here is the one I think it is, with two pendulums (pendula?), its owner has exhibited it at 'The Fosse' a few times now.

                                  It is a lovely piece of work!

                                  #654642
                                  Tendor
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                                    @tendor

                                    Here's an old book, available online.

                                    "Harmonic Vibrations and Vibration Figures" by Joseph Goold. 1884.

                                    https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.13780/mode/2up

                                    or… Internet Archive link

                                    Edited By Tendor on 01/08/2023 06:58:08

                                    #654647
                                    Michael Gilligan
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                                      @michaelgilligan61133

                                      Thanks for the link, Tendor yes

                                      … The author’s wishes have been granted [ see PREFACE ]

                                      MichaelG.

                                      #654653
                                      JimmieS
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                                        @jimmies

                                        Many, many thanks to all who have provided advice, suggestions and guidance. Now it is time for her to get down to work and get her draft submissions ready for the teacher's decision at the start of term.

                                        Jim

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