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    Maurice Cox 1
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      I am in the process of selling a set of Stuart Turner model centrifugal pump castings on eBay. In case the buyer is interested, I am including copies of the picture shown here. They are so nice I thought I would share them. I really like colour washed drawings. The engine is similar to one that Stuarts produced in, I think, the 1980's. It only had a bore of about half an inch. It was called "The Meteor" I think.I don't think it sold well. plate x. cntfgl pump and engine.jpg vert. engine and centr. pump ebay.jpg

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      Maurice Cox 1
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        #287993
        Peter Krogh
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          @peterkrogh76576

          I've seen a lot of cent. pumps but never one with an intake arranged like that one!!

          Great illustration…

          Pete

          #287999
          JasonB
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            @jasonb

            Thanks for those Maurice, is there also a working drawing for the pump?

            As Peter says I've not swwn one with that sort of inlet that seems to supply both sides of the impellor.

            Just been working on a small centrifugal pump myself but teh usual arrangement of one central inlet.

            #288002
            JA
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              @ja

              The centrifugal pump on the Easton, Amos & Sons drainage machine has a double entry. The pump shaft is vertical and the intakes to the pump are set as low as possible. At low water levels the top intake duct is a syphon.

              JA

              Edit: see http://www.wzlet.org

              Edited By JA on 09/03/2017 19:29:47

              #288005
              Maurice Cox 1
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                @mauricecox1

                There is no section of the pump I'm afraid, just a general view which I have posted here. As you will see from the text, it is an extract from a text book on engineering drawing.jones drawing book 007.jpg

                #288006
                Reg Rossiter
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                  @regrossiter24538

                  What many people may not appreciate is that even now you can usually find a steam up and downer stripping pump and steam turbine driven cargo pumps in many petroleum tankers. I'm talking ships here, not trucks. Double inlet pumps are the norm in large sizes. They aid throughput and balance axial forces. As for the use of steam, steam stripping pumps are safe in a potentially hazardous environment where you don't want electricity. Cargo pumps usually have their prime mover outside the pump room, in the engine room. Steam turbines are often used because that puts load on the boilers to produce plenty of inert gas for blanketing the cargo tanks as cargo is discharged. Electric drives can be used but then you may need a separate inert gas generator.

                  Reg

                  #288012
                  Peter Krogh
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                    @peterkrogh76576

                    Thanks for the cool info, Reg!! It all makes sense of course…

                    Pete

                    #288020
                    Nicholas Farr
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                      @nicholasfarr14254

                      Hi, I used to maintain centrifugal pumps with this type of intake back in the early 1970's. They were made by a company called Uniglide, who are still making pumps I believe, they were similar to the ones in the illustration below and were driving by an electric motor, like the one in the middle.

                      gwynnes pumps 1.jpg

                      gwynnes pumps 2.jpg

                      I can't remember working on any Gwynnes pumps myself, but the Uniglide ones were all replaced by the beginning of the 80's, mostly by submersible ones as they suited the companies needs and needed less maintenance was required. The Uniglide's did however shift huge amounts of water and had bronze impellors and they were all 6 inch.

                      gwynnes pumps 3.jpg

                       

                      Regards Nick.

                      Edited By Nicholas Farr on 09/03/2017 21:40:56

                      #288035
                      Maurice Cox 1
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                        @mauricecox1

                        Here is another colour washed plate from the drawing text book, a duplex steam feed pump this time. Another fine example of the art I think.duplex steam pump sharp .jpg

                        #288036
                        Peter Krogh
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                          OK, now you've gone and confused me even more…. the steam pump. Why are there two steam ports for each end of the engine??? I've never seen that before!

                          Thanks,

                          Pete

                          #288038
                          JA
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                            @ja

                            I have just read the script of the picture in Maurice's second posting.

                            Should we be having a go at the exam questions??

                            JA

                            Edited By JA on 09/03/2017 23:40:50

                            #288042
                            Paul Kemp
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                              @paulkemp46892

                              Two steam ports, one inlet, one exhaust. The outer ones are the inlets and inners the exhaust (exhaust goes to cavity under the valve, inlet is exposed by the valve to the steam chest).

                              Paul.

                              #288044
                              duncan webster 1
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                                Posted by Peter Krogh on 09/03/2017 23:21:49:

                                OK, now you've gone and confused me even more…. the steam pump. Why are there two steam ports for each end of the engine??? I've never seen that before!

                                Thanks,

                                Pete

                                It's to provide cushioning. If we count from the left, ports 1 and 5 are to convey steam to the cylinder, ports 2 and 4 are for exhaust to release from the cylinder to the cavity under the valve, and the one in the middle, port 3 lets the exhaust out from under the valve to the outside world. Thus as the piston approaches the cover, the exhaust is shut off before it hits, and the trapped steam is compressed to cushion the piston. You can't put steam down ports 2 & 4 as they are blocked off by the piston at top/bottom of stroke. Remember there is no con rod/crank assembly to limit the stroke.

                                #288045
                                Peter Krogh
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                                  @peterkrogh76576

                                  Thank you Paul and Duncan! As soon as I read "…to cushion the piston." it was one of those 'duh slap the forehead' moments. That feature prevents knocking the heads off with a flying piston!

                                  Another learning moment brought to me by this Model Engineer Board.

                                  Pete

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