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  • #199355
    Stuart Bridger
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      @stuartbridger82290

      Friedn of mine is looking for a carbon fibre tube 1.6m long by 400mm dia. Astronomy application, any ideas of suppliers?

      Thanks

      Stuart

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      Stuart Bridger
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        #199361
        Ralph H
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          @ralphh

          Try Hardy's and Grey's Ltd http://www.hardyfishing.com/en-gb/home/

          or Attwater and Sons http://www.attwater.com/.

          I can recommend both as they are suppliers to the firm I work for.They should be be able to advise you on a solution.

          Edited By Ralph H on 05/08/2015 22:19:38

          #199362
          Ian P
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            @ianp

            By coincidence 10 minutes ago I sent an email for a quote for a c/f tube. Its a company I have bought custom tubes from for several years now and have always been very satisfied. (no connection to me)

            They are http://www.Tri-cast.co.uk

            Ian P

            #199363
            Ian P
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              @ianp
              Posted by Ian Phillips on 05/08/2015 22:27:30:

              By coincidence 10 minutes ago I sent an email for a quote for a c/f tube. Its a company I have bought custom tubes from for several years now and have always been very satisfied. (no connection to me)

              They are http://www.Tri-cast.co.uk

              Ian P

              PS I think they do up to 1m diameter at least

              #199364
              Keith Long
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                @keithlong89920

                That's a serious bit of composite tubing – your friend will likely need deep pockets. Is carbon fibre necessary, would glass fibre do the job?

                I would guess you'd be looking at a custom made tube, either filament wound or laid up from pre-preg sheet, if you can find a company that bcan do that sort of size you might have to alter the diameter a bit to make use of an existing former, a custom mandrel wouild be very expensive – ours were and they were only about 150mm diameter.and shorter than you're looking for.

                #199370
                Michael Gilligan
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                  @michaelgilligan61133
                  Posted by Keith Long on 05/08/2015 22:32:56:

                  … Is carbon fibre necessary, would glass fibre do the job?

                  .

                  Keith,

                  If it's for a telescope OTA, then carbon's near-zero coefficient of thermal expansion is very desirable.

                  MichaelG.

                  #199375
                  Keith Long
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                    @keithlong89920

                    I fully realised that Michael

                    #199382
                    Stuart Bridger
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                      @stuartbridger82290

                      Thanks for the suggestions

                      #199394
                      Michael Gilligan
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                        @michaelgilligan61133
                        Posted by Keith Long on 05/08/2015 23:10:13:

                        I fully realised that Michael

                        .

                        My apologies, Keith … no slight intended.

                        It's only a fine line between 'necessary' and 'very desirable'

                        MichaelG.

                        #199397
                        Michael Gilligan
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                          @michaelgilligan61133

                          Stuart,

                          It's interesting to see that Orion Optics is using 'sandwich construction'

                          … 'though I'm not aware what core material is used.

                          See also, this page from DreamScopes

                          MichaelG.

                          .

                          Edit: This might be of interest.

                          Edited By Michael Gilligan on 06/08/2015 06:21:39

                          Edited By Michael Gilligan on 06/08/2015 06:28:46

                          #199408
                          Michael Gilligan
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                            Posted by Michael Gilligan on 06/08/2015 06:18:40:

                            Stuart,

                            It's interesting to see that Orion Optics is using 'sandwich construction'

                            .

                            Oops … that link seems to be wrong … Try this

                            #199410
                            Ian P
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                              @ianp

                              Stuart

                              Would 372.97mm internal diameter be big enough?

                              I have a list of mandrel sizes that Tri-cast use and this one at 900mm long seems to be the nearest.

                              Wall thickness can be whatever you want, most of mine have been between 3 and 6mm

                              Ian P

                              #199427
                              Circlip
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                                @circlip

                                Would think the "Meat" is either honeycomb or extruded (Blue) foam.

                                Regards Ian.

                                #199487
                                Michael Gilligan
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                                  @michaelgilligan61133
                                  Posted by Circlip on 06/08/2015 11:16:28:

                                  Would think the "Meat" is either honeycomb or extruded (Blue) foam.

                                  Regards Ian.

                                  .

                                  Very likely, Ian

                                  I should probably have been more explicit, and written:

                                  "… 'though I'm not aware what core material is used by Orion in these particular tubes."

                                  MichaelG.

                                  #199493
                                  Nick_G
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                                    @nick_g

                                    .

                                    There is a company in Runcorn called Sigmatex. (I did some work for them back in my sparking days)

                                    They weave CF in a large number of widths and weights from something resembling fine silk to course mesh. I remember them telling me at the time that they supplied 90% of the F1 teams and a number of aircraft manufacturers. I also remember them telling me that it was also used to produce helicopter blades and to do this the weave layers were placed in varying directions and a mixture of course and fine fabrics.

                                    They seemed quite open and approachable people. You may be able to purchase a 'roll end' off them and combined with a former make your own. ….. Possibly.!

                                    Failing that, I would be surprised if they were not able to point you in the right direction of such a tube supplier.

                                    Regards, Nick

                                    #199495
                                    Michael Gilligan
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                                      @michaelgilligan61133

                                      Suitable tubes are available here

                                      … wrong side of the pond, I presume.

                                      crying

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