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2 August 2015 at 11:03 #198853
Chris Shelton
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Hi All,

Can anyone suggest a source of a small amount of Hammerite Mid Green hammer finish paint.

It seem's that Hammerite no longer sell it, I have scoured the internet, but cannot find anyone selling it.

Any help would be appreciated.
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2 August 2015 at 11:03 #32538
Chris Shelton
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2 August 2015 at 11:44 #198860
Michael Gilligan
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@michaelgilligan61133
Sorry, Chis … You will need to look out for old stock.

MichaelG.
2 August 2015 at 12:31 #198868
Ian Parkin
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@ianparkin39383
I've just been turning my workshop upside down to find 5 cans NOS that I had bought for a startrite machine

You would have been welcome to some of them but I fear I've thrown them

I bought them from a ebay seller a pack of 6 cans all sealed etc

however it had gone off it dried very metalic looking with the silver glitter coming to the surface and leaving a rough surface i stirred it to death but it made little difference

whether adding something may have made a difference

Ian
2 August 2015 at 12:36 #198870
Michael Gilligan
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@michaelgilligan61133
Nice try, Ian

For info. … The original Hammerite needs a special Thinner … Can't remember what chemical it is, but it's something now frowned-upon by HSE et al; which is why the paint was withdrawn a few years ago.

MichaelG.
2 August 2015 at 13:23 #198883
Circlip
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@circlip
Thinners contains Xylene and also has a base smell of cellulose thinners. Warning on tins of Hammerite says contains Trichloroethylene.

Sadly, when Britain lost its manufacturing base, Maffs and Inglish became secondary curriculum subjects to David Beckhams hair styles, Nail care and killing electronic warriors.

We now have the situation where DIY stores (A new "Hobby" started in the late sixties/early seventies) are closing due to peoples lack of manual ability

Unfortunately, those of us who are able to read and comprehend the written word and who did a bit of Chemmy at school are penalised by the numpties who think solvents are for sniffing and despite being told the contrary that the "New" finishes are much better, can't get the old stuff.

Regards Ian.

PS., Hammerite is attacked by Suds.
2 August 2015 at 13:30 #198885
Gordon W
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@gordonw
Can't help with the colour, but the old hammerite did mix well, if you have some suitable colours you may get the correct green. For info'- black and white mix to a good aproximation to galvanised.
2 August 2015 at 13:49 #198889
David Clark 13
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I purchased a can from b&q in the last 12 months. May still be available. They certainly have Buckingham green as well as dark green. Not sure if it is hammer finish. They do thinners as well.
2 August 2015 at 17:28 #198921
NJH
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@njh
Loads of Hammerite for sale on ebay – I've not looked for the colour you state – but it should keep you busy for a while!

Norman

Edited By NJH on 02/08/2015 17:29:19
2 August 2015 at 20:58 #198956
Robbo
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@robbo
"Loads of Hammerite on ebay" – but you won't find mid-green, I've been looking for ages. I did find some cream, which is another discontinued colour.

You might find something if you look in their range of garden or garage door paints.

Note that the modern thinners will not work on the "old" Hammerite, as all the nasties have been removed. Its just like cellulose thinners now"
2 August 2015 at 21:41 #198962
Trevor Drabble 1
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Chris, If you are interested , I have a brand new original unopened 500 ml tin , product code 6720902 of hammered mid green available . Not sure of situation regarding posting , so are you anywhere near South Yorkshire ? Also , will be going to Bristol ME Exhibition either on the Friday or Saturday.

Trevor.
2 August 2015 at 23:40 #198973
Robbo
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Trevor,

Solvent based paints are on the Royal Mail prohibited list, but couriers will deliver them.
3 August 2015 at 10:10 #199010
Trevor Drabble 1
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@trevordrabble1
Robbo, Oh dear ( !! ) . Thanks for the info , much appreciated .
3 August 2015 at 13:02 #199037
Anthony Knights
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@anthonyknights16741
The above pictures show I have used Hammerite mid green paint in the past and I am extremely annoyed that it is no longer available. I did try mixing the dark green and white hammer finish paint to get something like the same colour to use on my tool grinder, but it came out the wrong colour and virtually no hammer finish. think I will see what the local car spares shop has in the metallic green spray paint.
3 August 2015 at 13:03 #199038
Anthony Knights
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The above pictures show I have used Hammerite mid green paint in the past and I am extremely annoyed that it is no longer available. I did try mixing the dark green and white hammer finish paint to get something like the same colour to use on my tool grinder, but it came out the wrong colour and virtually no hammer finish. think I will see what the local car spares shop has in the metallic green spray paint.
3 August 2015 at 13:05 #199039
Anthony Knights
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sorry, double post
3 August 2015 at 13:22 #199041
Neil Wyatt
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Am I alone in thinking hammer-finish hammerite always looks a bit yuk?

Try looking for 'sage green' I have some sage green textured hammerite (?) that has a sort of gritty finish but isn't far off that colour.

Neil
3 August 2015 at 14:56 #199051
Chris Shelton
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@chrisshelton11794
Thank you to everyone for taking the time to reply, and special thanks to Ian P for turning out his workshop.

I need the paint for a Simat 101 lathe, and would like to keep the colour original.

Trevor D I Live in Essex, unfortunately I am not going to the event in Bristol

I would like to purchase the paint from you, and will gladly pay any expense's incurred.

Many thanks

Chris

Edited By Chris Shelton on 03/08/2015 15:03:23
3 August 2015 at 15:23 #199055
Michael Gilligan
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 03/08/2015 13:22:02:

Am I alone in thinking hammer-finish hammerite always looks a bit yuk?

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It covers a multitude of sins though.

I even have some 'laboratory' weighing scales that have the plywood [!] base finished in Hammerite.

MichaelG.
3 August 2015 at 15:41 #199057
Neil Wyatt
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> I even have some 'laboratory' weighing scales that have the plywood [!] base finished in Hammerite.

Now who would do such a thing

That's what the textured stuff is for!

Neil
3 August 2015 at 18:37 #199062
nigel jones 5
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same colour as the dog when it gets out of the canal
3 August 2015 at 19:09 #199063
Trevor Drabble 1
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@trevordrabble1
Chris, Will check current prices and come back to you . I believe this paint is to the original formulae and I also have some original thinners , which I will try and decant some of into a smaller container for you if you need some . Also , I am coming to London's West End (War Horse ) 20th-22nd November if that helps to keep the costs down , though I appreciate that may be too far in the future for you . Meantime I will try and source a suitable carrier and again come back to you . Trust this will be acceptable.
4 August 2015 at 20:49 #199190
Anthony Knights
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Am I alone in thinking hammer-finish hammerite always looks a bit yuk?

That's the idea. In the event of theft the equipment is more easily traceable and the thieves will probably get sod all for it when they attempt to sell it.
4 August 2015 at 21:03 #199193
Steve Pavey
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Not sure if they have the colour you need, but it might be worth checking Lidl this week:

**LINK**
5 August 2015 at 22:04 #199356
DMR
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@dmr
I raised the issue of Hammerite paint last year under the "Hammerite has changed" title. I received a couple of proper replies which explained it all, but they are not coming out here and there are some things to add. My problem was with painting front gates with the new formula and I have held off thanking the best answers until my job had weathered somewhat, The gates are OK after their first winter but the finish remains a very wishy-washy black.

The first question that should have been asked here is "Did the old tin (assuming you still have it) have the name AzkoNobel on it. If it does, then it is the modern stuff. Since you seem to have had the old tin for some time and it had lasted through several jobs, then I would say it is the old formula since the modern substance skins heavily. I make the following points which are not being made very clear:

A) If it says AzkoNobel on the tin, then it is the fairly useless modern stuff and no-one now produces the paint to the original formula.

B) If it says AzkoNobel on the tin, make no attempt to mix it with Hammerite that does not say AzkoNobel on the tin, and the thinners are not to be mixed up either as they are quite different.

C) If it says AzkoNobel on the tin, and you are painting something small or taking time over it then the stuff will start to skin around the edges of the tin, particularly in warm weather.

D) If it says AzkoNobel on the tin, then the paint will quickly skin heavily in a part used state and will go off entirely over time, even if unopened! The original paint kept for ever, forming no skin and could be thinned if it got a bit thick.

E) If the original tin did not say AzkoNobel on it and there is or ever was an AzkoNobel paint of the same name, then it will most likely not be anything like the same colour or finish.

F) I would guess the thinner for the modern mix is a bit useless, but have no knowledge. For reasons of skinning I would also guess that it does not mix to a different colour well and certainly would not keep at all.

So now you know what to look for and ask about

Dennis
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