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    Alan Worland 1
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      Alan Worland 1
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        I am about to start setting up a boiler to run an engine and am considering an injector for boiler filling.

        I know not a lot about injectors, but could it be set going to maintain a level if possible or do they like to be on or off? Can they work full time?

        Alan

        #89787
        MICHAEL WILLIAMS
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          Hi Alan ,

          An injector can certainly be used for feeding a small stationary engine boiler but it is not always best choice .

          Any one injector has a feed rate which cannot be varied very much so to use just one to maintain boiler level 'automatically' over a long period with varying demands for steam is tricky .

          Two ways forward :

          (1) Fit an injector with more than adequate capacity and turn on and off manually as required .

          (2) Fit two injectors . One small one which can be on most of the time to keep some water going into the boiler all the time and one larger one turned on as required for fast top ups .

          Injectors will work for extended periods of time but are prone to 'knocking off' and will not usually restart themselves . 'Knocking off' occurs when any minor disturbance interrupts steam or water flow – most common causes are a water droplet in the steam or an air bubble in the water .

          Many people prefer pumps – either power driven or hand worked – and it is actually a bit unusual to see injectors used on small stationary engine boilers .

          Many full size boilers had steam powered reciprocating pumps . One of these would be interesting to model . Most common types are Scotch crank and Weir types .

          Regards ,

          Michael Williams .

          Edited By MICHAEL WILLIAMS on 26/04/2012 23:45:29

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          Alan Worland 1
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            Thanks Michael, I have no experience of injectors and it seemed like a simple solution to feeding the boiler. However I think I may be better off with an engine driven pump and perhaps an injector for occasional top ups.

            I believe an injector can be heard operating?

            Alan

            #89837
            MICHAEL WILLIAMS
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              Hello again ,

              (1) Injectors are generally quiet in operation but you can usually hear a slight ' chirp chirp ' noise when they are working properly .

              (2) Just for interest :

              My earliest boilers were simply filled up at start of a running session and then allowed to cool down and filled again when the water was all gone . Not very scientific but quite satsfactory with simple pot boilers and I sometimes achieved 40 minutes of running between fill ups .

              MikeW

              #89845
              mgj
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                A lot might depend on hte size of hte boiler- or more precisely demmand from it.

                If you know approximate revs of the engine, you can easily work out how many ounces per minute the injector should supply. The trouble is that for many applications its difficult to get a good injector small enough, and making one can be a little awkward (in the smallest sizes)

                A 12oz injector easily maintains level on both a 3" Little Samson Traction engine, and a Metre Maid. With both of them I tend to run on the injector, because is easyy, painless and supplies very hot water. You don't flatten the boiler. For my money, and injector is a much better bet, if you can get a reliable one of the right size. tehy also tend, if one is buying one, to be a lot less work to make (of course. Just plumb it in and off you go)

                The Chivertons, available from Polly seem to light first time every time.

                Pumps work well too! All you need is a controllable by pass circuit and you can adjust delivery to the boiler very easily.

                Pays your money and takes your choice

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