Chester Champion V 16 Z axis mod

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Chester Champion V 16 Z axis mod

This topic has 18 replies, 6 voices, and was last updated 23 July 2019 at 21:49 by petro1head.

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12 August 2018 at 20:28 #366985
David George 1
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Just started to change the Z axis handle to 90 deg. hand wheel and to fit a ball screw and motor to top of column for power feed.

David

Edited By David George 1 on 12/08/2018 20:29:25
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12 August 2018 at 20:28 #31225
David George 1
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31 August 2018 at 11:03 #369772
David George 1
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@davidgeorge1
Done a bit more work on top housing for bevel gears.

side shaft and bush to make next.

David
1 September 2018 at 20:36 #369983
David George 1
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Shaft and bush turned now I just need to cut keyways in gears and screw bush into place to get basic hand wheel moved.

Need more information on a 24 volt DC motor to drive the axis. How much power would I need? would it need to be a geared motor for slow feed with enough power to drive axis fast traverse.

David
1 September 2018 at 21:34 #369992
Ian Parkin
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On my mill and a few other machines I,ve used parvelux motors from a seller on eBay

These are 24 v and draw about 2 amps and run about 40 rpm

He sells these motors new and unused for about £25

Edited By Ian Parkin on 01/09/2018 21:35:10
4 September 2018 at 16:11 #370410
David George 1
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Done the side drive shaft and phos. bronze bush but ordered the wrong keyway broach from Arc so I will have to wait for new delivery. Made the keys and fitted them to shaft ready for when the broach arrives.

David
18 September 2018 at 11:32 #372192
David George 1
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@davidgeorge1
Just had a few days on holiday nr Bristol so only just got back to workshop this week. Broached the bevel gears and fitted to shafts ok finished milling the main block so assemble and try in machine! Found that I had cut two of the cap screw holes out of position slightly so have to dissemble and slot holes to suit wrong dimension on drawing must have had a brain storm.

David
18 September 2018 at 17:31 #372221
geoff walker 1
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Nice work David, is it your own design?

Looking forward to seeing it completed.

A you tube video of it in use would be a good idea.

Geoff
22 September 2018 at 16:58 #372729
David George 1
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@davidgeorge1
The handwheel stage is complete and working. It is so much better to use I can look at the cutter and wind the handwheel without standing on small stool. Next to fit the motor for powered drive as well.

Ian thanks for the information on the motor perfect for the job just needs a bit of thought so I can disconnect motor drive to use handwheel.

Geoff yes its all my own work but it is the sort of thing I would have to do occasionally before I retired.

David
22 September 2018 at 18:19 #372735
Neil Wyatt
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You should be writing that up David!

Neil
4 October 2018 at 13:54 #374482
David George 1
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Just been making the coupling for the motor and trying to decide how to disconnect it. I have bought some springs to support the motor and help disconnect the coupling I have made.

Next to get the motor mounted on top plate and spring load the plates on top.

David
5 October 2018 at 07:46 #374605
geoff walker 1
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You should be writing that up David!

Neil

Sounds good to me I'll second that.

M.E. or M.E.W., I would imagine both editors would be very interested

Geoff
10 November 2018 at 21:06 #380131
David George 1
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@davidgeorge1
I had a break from motorising the Z axis when I found that the DC motor was to fast and no power and jumpy when slowed down. Thought about putting a toothed belt and pully on but decided to fit a stepper motor on instead. Baught a new motor and driver.

David
11 November 2018 at 07:20 #380160
Martin Connelly
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If you have problems of too little torque from the stepper for raising the head you can get axial planetary gearboxes with suitable gear ratios to slow the head movement and increase the torque. They can be added with minimal further engineering as they are made to suit standard stepper motors.

If you think about the maximum rpm you need for your leadscrew and the maximum available from a stepper motor a suitable ratio should be an easy calculation.

Martin C
17 February 2019 at 17:12 #396740
David George 1
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@davidgeorge1
Hi had a bit of progress with the power to stepper motor look at vid on https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC40QHbhXPF7MyiUT_hacScQ

David
17 February 2019 at 23:08 #396790
David George 1
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@davidgeorge1
A few pictures of nearly finished job.

David
17 February 2019 at 23:12 #396791
David George 1
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@davidgeorge1
Need to install limit switches to prevent overrun etc. The power supply is under the bench 24 volt and 5 volt signal.

David
3 March 2019 at 09:30 #398472
David George 1
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@davidgeorge1
At last fitted the limit switch and it is finished. Satisfied with the outcome it does what I hoped for and no backlash with th ball screw.

David
23 July 2019 at 21:49 #420651
petro1head
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@petro1head
Just found this, looks great.

For the elctrical parts is it just the stepper motor, driver and power supply?
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