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30 December 2014 at 14:42 #173972
PDBV
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Hi all,

Lets get the intro out of the way first,

Im Pete, im 24 and this is to be my first venture into the steam side of things, i started out at the age of 13, when my club took me under their wing, at the age of 16 i passed my passenger drivers test, and the club donated a part built petrol powered shunter to me, witch i completed and converted to battery electric and have been driving it ever since,

Now i feel its time for me to get my head round the valve gear, timing and quatering that is steam,

I decided that my first project is going to be an LBSC Tich that i have already dubbed Little Tich (inventive i know)

Up to now i have been converting all the drawings and making 3D CAD models to make sure everything is correct,

Now thats enough chit chat i think, lets get down to some visual

The pictures so far

Lets see if that works

Thanks for looking (sorry for the boaring start)

Pete

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 30/12/2014 15:28:23
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30 December 2014 at 14:42 #31075
PDBV
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Planning, Fabrication and Construction of my “Little Tich”
30 December 2014 at 14:44 #173973
PDBV
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@pdbv
Evidently this forum doesnt work the same as the others that i frequent, regarding displaying pictures, could someone enlighten me as to how i can display my photos in this thread from photobucket ?

Thanks

Pete
30 December 2014 at 14:54 #173974
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Edited By PDBV on 30/12/2014 15:23:49

Edited By PDBV on 30/12/2014 15:24:35
30 December 2014 at 14:54 #173975
PDBV
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@pdbv
Sussed it
30 December 2014 at 15:29 #173979
Neil Wyatt
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Ah… I fixed the first post but you have fixed another…

That will confuse people!

Neil
30 December 2014 at 15:32 #173980
PDBV
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Haha cheers Neil, i wasnt sure weather it was the auto spam filter or if it was the wrong link,

And sorry for disturbing you from your holiday again

Have a good time

Pete
30 December 2014 at 18:27 #174014
David Haynes
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Hi Pete,

Good to see someone wanting to start a Tich. Despite the various mixed comments it has sometimes received, covered in this forum and elsewhere, it is a very workable option for many. If you want to get to grips with the valve gear of Tich, without going in the workshop, have a look at the late Charlie Dockstader's valve gear simulations. You have to build your own with his software, but it is fairly straightforward. It is nice to see a valve gear actually running without even getting your hands dirty; although, that will be the ultimate destination I am sure! His simulations are discussed on this forum if you do a search, but you will find it here as well.

Dave
30 December 2014 at 20:20 #174030
PDBV
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@pdbv
Hi David,

The info and diagrams/simulations in that link are a great help, i will probably spend hours watching those now

With regards to the comments people have made about Tich, i see it as somewhere to start and also somewhere to start learning, if something is wrong with it its easy and cheap enough to throw away and amend it, im not after a top notch loco at the moment, im after something that will teach me and wont break the bank if i make mistakes

thanks for your link

Pete
30 December 2014 at 21:31 #174042
Another JohnS
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With regards to the comments people have made about Tich, i see it as somewhere to start and also somewhere to start learning, if something is wrong with it its easy and cheap enough to throw away and amend it, im not after a top notch loco at the moment, im after something that will teach me and wont break the bank if i make mistakes…

I've posted before that I think my little Tich is a great locomotive. I have more fun with it than any other locomotive that I have had the pleasure of running.

In fact, I may make another one…

John.
30 December 2014 at 22:27 #174048
Bruce Voelkerding
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Pete,

I hope you realize the Axle Boxes are not in the "nominal design" running position on your drawing. Bottom of Frames to Axle center should be 5/8" (I do not see the 1/8" clearance under the Axle Box). I would imagine there are a lot of Tichs running out there with Axle Boxes hard down in the Horns – but this will make a lot of measurements seen odd later as you progress drawing the Connecting Rod and Valve Gear.

Bruce
30 December 2014 at 22:37 #174051
PDBV
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@pdbv
Yeah i noticed my mistake with the axle boxes and today have amended it thanks

Pete
31 December 2014 at 09:27 #174078
Nigel Bennett
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A lot of people slag off Tich as being unsuitable as a beginner's loco. It's what I started with. I didn't finish it, but I did learn a lot from what I did.

I also own a venerable 3.1/2"G 0-4-0 ST locomotive mid-way in size between Tich & Juliet.

I can say that if you can build a Tich and than have the driving skills to drive and fire it continuously, you can probably build and drive anything. Tiny locos are very unforgiving of errors in construction and inattention in driving. Unlike say a 5"G Britannia, you can't leave it in steam for ten minutes whilst you have a bite of lunch!

Good luck in your project. I seldom build anything nowadays without building it as a 3D model first – I find it helps enormously to visualise methods of construction, assembly pitfalls, and you can also add a whole plethora of your own mistakes as well as finding original ones…
31 December 2014 at 11:54 #174090
Ian S C
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@iansc
PDBV, it's normal to open a photo album by going to the green line at the top of the page, once you'r in there, just follow your nose, keep the size of your photos down, mainly (as far as I'm concerned) so that people with slow connections don't take forever to get to see the photo.

Ian S C
8 January 2015 at 19:41 #175253
PDBV
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Well i finally started work on little tich, ive made one complete buffer beam and i have made a second one but that needs the brackets making and fitting, i forgot to take pictures will get some at a later date, doing the riviting was fun, i had to use a drill bit to countersink the holes as i dont have a countersink small enough to fit the holes, they are a bit bigger than i would have liked but look fine
16 January 2015 at 12:39 #176194
Ryan Norton
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Hi Pete

Good to see another Tich builder on the forum! Good luck!
21 January 2015 at 12:53 #176765
Larry Coleman 1
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Hey Pete

I am in the process of building 5" version of that loco. How much vertical movement do you have on your axle boxes.

Have you finished the boiler.

Larry
23 January 2015 at 08:18 #176939
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@pdbv
Hi larry,

Im no where near that stage yet ive only just finished making the frames

Picture to follow shortly
23 January 2015 at 09:31 #176944
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23 January 2015 at 09:31 #176945
PDBV
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@pdbv
Thats as far as i have got in the 2 weeks since starting it
23 January 2015 at 09:54 #176954
Larry Coleman 1
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PDBV

I think what you have done in two weeks looks real good. I am building 'Juliet' the five inch gauge.

What diameter is your boiler drum.

I am also going to try and fit self aligning bearings, The bronze ones thats why I asked about how much movment your axle boxes had.

Can any one tell me if you get axle lock up or are the axles rigid the drawing I have is very vage.

Ian

I have opened up an album and have 64 pictures in it how do you open a second one. Your help would be appreciated.

Larry
23 January 2015 at 14:45 #176997
geoff walker 1
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Hi Pete,

Nice job, coming on well.

Can you tell me which drawing you have used for the 3d drawings.

Looks like it's just what I need

regards geoff
24 January 2015 at 13:32 #177147
geoff walker 1
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@geoffwalker1
Hi again Pete,

Sorry, I should have said which 3d drawing program did you use for the little tich chassis.

regards geoff
20 March 2015 at 21:28 #183941
Gordon French
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Carry right on with what you are doing. I did and completed mine in 1971 (to its present state). I have run it, and run it, and run it. I shopped it in 1989 and saw parts that I don't even remember making. But there they were and I know no one else had a hand in it. What you learn is what kind of coal works and what doesn't and how to fire with 5 kids asking continuous questions. How to drive looking at the fire, the track ahead, and the pressure gauge while carrying on a conversation over your shoulder.

Boiler making will teach you how much heat makes your eyes water and spelter still doesn't melt and go where you need it!

Some of it was a very hard learn, but I wouldn't have missed it.

Gordon French, Roseburg, Oregon, USA
21 July 2015 at 19:08 #197509
PDBV
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Well its been quite a while since i updated this and ive done a fair amount since,

So i shall quit talking and let what pictures i have taken (i keep forgetting to take them) do the talking 😀

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Thanks for looking 😀

Edited By PDBV on 21/07/2015 19:17:35
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