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13 December 2014 at 09:33 #31074
Raymond Sanderson 2
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13 December 2014 at 09:33 #172388
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I put my hand up to attempt to make a screw type joiner for New Zealand Hiking Poles for a fellow I know. They were cut in half to bring home from NZ to AU when on their honey moon some years ago. These Poles are not cheap some $120 each they have a coin in the top of the handle.

The drawing and plan was for 24tpi but a mate rang to say his boss offered me use of 16tpi tap and die so I jumped at it. I have not cut threads on a lathe for over 40 yrs. I got to dry fit stage today and turned the Pole to suit they are not true round one being very oval indeed.

Not sure why photos and text stuffed up order. Maybe me and my stuffy head sinus worst this year.

Edited By Raymond Sanderson 2 on 13/12/2014 09:40:00
13 December 2014 at 15:17 #172423
Neil Wyatt
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Hi Ray,

Looks a nice job.

> they have a coin in the top of the handle.

If you're caught short out in the hills you can spend a penny without causing a scene.

Neil
13 December 2014 at 17:55 #172439
Circlip
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ES might have been a better choice

Regards Ian.
14 December 2014 at 07:18 #172480
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never thought of that Neil. Thanks

Circlip/Ian not sure what you mean ES???
14 December 2014 at 09:35 #172493
Gordon W
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ES edison screw? Looks like a drain rod joint to me.
14 December 2014 at 10:06 #172496
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Or a rod for sweeping chimneys. Saw some thing today that reminded me of this thread, a two piece Pool Cue in the local second hand shop. I had a look at it, and it has a 8 mm thread in the brass fitting. I think one of my nephews has a three part pool cue he bought in Brisbane.

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14 December 2014 at 11:20 #172503
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Don't worry. Drain rods have a far courser thread, more like 6 tpi. You might want to thnk of a way to stiffen the thread so it doesn't undo from the jarring of hitting the ground in use, yet not jamming up. I suggest graphite lubrication from a smokey candle flame as it isn't slippery like vaseline (you wouldn't use oil on a domestic product I hope) yet prevents cold welding. You might consider putting (metric for long term availability) spanner flats on the joint or they will be tempted to get the mole grips out. Show then the old trick of patiently tapping a brass joint to loosen it if jammed.
14 December 2014 at 12:02 #172510
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Posted by Gordon W on 14/12/2014 09:35:53:

ES edison screw? Looks like a drain rod joint to me.

Well now all it needs is loo roll I guess.
14 December 2014 at 12:12 #172511
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Posted by Ian S C on 14/12/2014 10:06:11:

Or a rod for sweeping chimneys. Saw some thing today that reminded me of this thread, a two piece Pool Cue in the local second hand shop. I had a look at it, and it has a 8 mm thread in the brass fitting. I think one of my nephews has a three part pool cue he bought in Brisbane.

Ian S C

Ian pool cue joiner Link

Had been considered by the owner and other willing to do the job but as I pointed out the stress after boring and weakening the strength of the wood centre it would split, shatter break. The use of an outer sheath strengthens even tho I have removed 1/8th to allow reasonable mating of timber and brass.

Link

I had a similar joiner as an example to show the owner,
14 December 2014 at 12:20 #172512
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Posted by Bazyle on 14/12/2014 11:20:23:

Don't worry. Drain rods have a far courser thread, more like 6 tpi. You might want to thnk of a way to stiffen the thread so it doesn't undo from the jarring of hitting the ground in use, yet not jamming up. I suggest graphite lubrication from a smokey candle flame as it isn't slippery like vaseline (you wouldn't use oil on a domestic product I hope) yet prevents cold welding. You might consider putting (metric for long term availability) spanner flats on the joint or they will be tempted to get the mole grips out. Show then the old trick of patiently tapping a brass joint to loosen it if jammed.

Bazyle having used the 16tpiUNF its tight and all that would be required once it wears is thread tape or a locking screw through to the relief area above the thread. Even that could undo.

I had considered a Bayonet type fitting with a lock screw but for my level of expertise in machining my limited machines and as job is a FREEBIE I opted for the quickest, stable option that the owner was more than happy with.
14 December 2014 at 12:31 #172516
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Posted by Circlip on 13/12/2014 17:55:14:

ES might have been a better choice

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Raymond,

In the absence of any clarification from Ian … I guess this was probably an oblique reference to John Stevenson's recent discussion of lampholders.

MichaelG.
14 December 2014 at 14:11 #172525
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Sorry guys, my feeble attempt at jocularity. Brownie points to MichealG for deciphering. Beauty of ES is that even the Ya- er Americans find that hard to cross thread. Cold hands may find it difficult to locate and screw the bits together so a "sleeved" thread may help.

Regards Ian.
14 December 2014 at 16:48 #172546
Circlip
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Sorry MichAelG .

Regards Ian.
14 December 2014 at 20:34 #172573
Raymond Sanderson 2
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Thanks Michael and Ian for the link and the laugh.

Cold weather in Australia ???? Today is going to reach 34C here in Sydney. Yes we do0 have snow yes it does get down to -10C in some regions unless the owners head back to NZ or maybe Tassie mountain walks where the wind chill cuts through you like an ice princess curse it should all be ok.

If my feeble hands can screw them together the younger owners should be able to………I hope.
15 December 2014 at 11:06 #172628
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The pool cue I saw had a joint very similar to the one you have on the walking stick. Ray

you better steer clear of parts of town for a while, bit of a worry.

Ian S C
15 December 2014 at 22:49 #172686
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Posted by Ian S C on 15/12/2014 11:06:07:

The pool cue I saw had a joint very similar to the one you have on the walking stick. Ray

you better steer clear of parts of town for a while, bit of a worry.

Ian S C

Not seen one like that Ian on a pool cue

City only head in there now days on special occasions ok so was in thee last month and not far from the excitement of the last 24 hrs.

All done and dusted at 2am besides with the area we live in since the 50's its been a league of Nations/Nationalities and has increase so with such as Indian, Afgans, Lebs, Turks, Kiwi's and Fijian all sorts of religions why even the bikies have to squeeze in with us all.
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