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6 April 2014 at 14:09 #149069
Michael Checkley
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After spending a fair bit of time kitting out my workshop, retrofitting CNC machines and a house move. I have reached a point were I can start creating!

but….before I could dive in to rc aero engines I was struggling to find a vice that would fit my Denford Novamill and the projects I had in mind so I decided to design my own. So this became the first project and (I can say now its finished) was a good one for understanding the machines and tooling I can gathered together.

The parts were made on either a Denford Starturn lathe, Novamill or warco mill.
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6 April 2014 at 14:09 #31050
Michael Checkley
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6 April 2014 at 14:22 #149070
Michael Checkley
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Some drawings…..
6 April 2014 at 14:28 #149071
Michael Gilligan
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Michael,

That looks a very fine piece of Design and Machining

… I hope that Neil will offered the chance to publish !!

MichaelG.
6 April 2014 at 14:29 #149072
John McNamara
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Hi Michael

Very nicely made, you must get a kick out of using it.

Regards
john
6 April 2014 at 14:39 #149074
Rick Kirkland 1
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Michael, that's too good to bung on a machine and get swarf and cutting fluid on it!

Rick
6 April 2014 at 15:00 #149075
John Stevenson 1
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Michael,

Nice work.

Anyone notice that this vise / vice is ideal for a CNC machine in that the fixed jaw is the one nearest to you ?

So if the left hand side of the fixed jaw is referenced to 0,0 then all moves will be in the X+, Y+ quadrant which is the way most people draw.

The drawback to using a vise where the back jaw if fixed is that 0,0 will move in relation to the width of the blank parts put in the jaws.

Again nice work and do send it in for Neil to use.

[EDIT] Bought a new keyboard but this one spells worse than the last one.

Edited By John Stevenson on 06/04/2014 15:01:18
6 April 2014 at 15:11 #149077
David Jupp
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@davidjupp51506
I have a Novamill awaiting re-commissioning, I'd be interested in the design if you decide to publish.
6 April 2014 at 17:54 #149092
Neil Wyatt
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@neilwyatt
Hi MIchael,

If you are interested in writing the vice up for MEW, email me on neil.wyatt@mytimemedia.com

Thanks

Neil
6 April 2014 at 18:36 #149096
Johnboy25
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@johnboy25
Hi Michael..

This certainly looks the job including the professional drawings detailing it. I too would like to see this in MEW.

John
6 April 2014 at 21:19 #149109
Oompa Lumpa
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I would endorse John's comment, I too would like to see it written up, a very elegant piece of engineering.

graham.

Edited By Oompa Lumpa on 06/04/2014 21:20:18
6 April 2014 at 22:47 #149113
Michael Checkley
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@michaelcheckley34085
Thanks for the positive comments!

The vice is 80mm wide jaws and opens a maximum of ~80mm so this only just fits on the Novamill. I have fitted a larger bed to my mill and a column raising block so I'm a bit better off for space.

I have component and assembly drawings so an article in MEW would not be impossible.

I like your design Gray, very low profile. My vice uses an 'off the shelf' leadscrew and nut and it was packaging up the nut that really set my height (~60mm)

Future plans are to do end stops and different jaws.
7 April 2014 at 01:25 #149117
John Stevenson 1
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From the shots I have seen Michael your drawings are first rate and very understandable.
7 April 2014 at 08:38 #149119
Steamer1915
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@steamer1915
First class work Michael. Please publish.

Best regards,

Steve.
7 April 2014 at 11:23 #149130
Ian P
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@ianp
Michael

What a sensible and practical vice you have made, to say nothing of the quality of design and construction. Its exemplary.

I look forward to seeing the design in print

Ian P.
7 April 2014 at 11:33 #149132
Gray62
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@gray62
Here's a random thought, how about a collaborative article, Gray and Michael – 2 takes on a similar subject.

It would make for an interesting subject to see how 2 experienced and obviously very accomplished engineers approached the subject and came up with similar but different end results.

Micheal, that paint finish is excellent – maybe you could include the paint process as part of the article, I'm sure others would benefit

Graeme
7 April 2014 at 14:36 #149156
Michael Checkley
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@michaelcheckley34085
Neil has given me the green light to submit and article for MEW so I will have a go at putting one together and hopefully see my design in print. It will be my first article so will see how it goes.

With regards to the paint I`m embarrassed to say its nothing special just 100ml plastikote spray cans over a grey primer. I like this paint as it has good self levelling properties and remains flexible. How it stands up to oils I will have to wait and see. A column raising block I made for the mill uses the same paint and is still mostly attached.
23 February 2015 at 02:19 #180849
John Riedeman
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@johnriedeman79650
Were the prints ever published? This looks like a great summer project for me in learning how to use the current Novamill we have at school. If I can make this for it, then I'll be pretty versatile in using the machine. Thanks.
23 February 2015 at 07:46 #180853
David Jupp
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@davidjupp51506
MEW, issues 223 & 224 I believe.
2 March 2015 at 15:24 #181860
John Riedeman
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Ok, thanks! Do you think I need both issues or just one? It looks to be on the cover of Issue 223. And looks like I can purchase this in the US also correct? I'm not familiar with this magazine (yet).
2 March 2015 at 16:12 #181868
nigel jones 5
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I have to ask…how on earth do you get that finish? Ive got a decent set up but I cant get a finish anything like that on the mill??
2 March 2015 at 17:53 #181876
David Jupp
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Posted by John Riedeman on 02/03/2015 15:24:46:

Ok, thanks! Do you think I need both issues or just one? It looks to be on the cover of Issue 223. And looks like I can purchase this in the US also correct? I'm not familiar with this magazine (yet).

I only have 223 myself – that doesn't include the moving jaw, so I think you would need 224 (which I missed).
2 March 2015 at 17:59 #181878
JasonB
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224 has the moving jaw drawing and 225 has the last three smaller bit so you would need all three issues.

Fizzy thats not straight off the machine, some wet and dry on a flat surface and some elbow grease will be required

J

Edited By JasonB on 02/03/2015 18:01:13
2 March 2015 at 18:01 #181879
ianj
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@ians
John.

It was spread over three issues of the magazine, the concluding part was in issue 225.

Ian

Jason.

You just beat me to it !!

Edited By ian j on 02/03/2015 18:02:54
15 March 2015 at 20:57 #183365
Michael Checkley
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@michaelcheckley34085
Apologies for the late reply! …..The final part of the article was in No. 225.

Hi Fizzy, For large-ish areas the best tool I have so far is a flycutter purchased from home and workshop a couple of years back. Whoever made it did a great job and it fits straight in to an ISO 30 spindle and uses a ground Dormer centre drill for the cutting tool. On cast iron a 3 tip indexable face mill is getting heavy use.

I usually finish with a cut of 0.02 – 0.05mm depth depending on the material.
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