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Does any one know who made this engine

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22 April 2010 at 07:17 #50997
Stewart Hart
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Does any one now who made this engine

Thanks

Stew
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22 April 2010 at 07:17 #3059
Stewart Hart
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Wall Engine Displayed at Quarybank Mill Style
22 April 2010 at 09:22 #50999
Steve Garnett
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I’m afraid that I can only offer a little background confusion to
this…

The firm that had the most to do with
the Styal Quarry Bank Mill initially was Boulton and Watt, but they
didn’t make small engines, so I don’t think it’s theirs. What little I
know about this seems to indicate that the example in the workshop may
not be original at all. When the original mill engine was completely
rebuilt, the workshop was intended to be driven by a small 20HP
double-vortex turbine – which that engine surely isn’t! The firm that
got the rebuild job was Gilbert, Gilkes & Gordon Ltd, (originally
Williamsons) and all this work was supposed to take place between 1904
and 1905, when they replaced the original Boulton and Watt machinery
which had reached the end of its working life.

Strikes
me that the turbine probably didn’t ‘look the part’ for the museum, and
so what’s presented there now as perhaps genuine in the historical
context probably isn’t. Nice engine, but unless somebody recognises it
specifically, the only real recourse is to ring the museum, and see if
anybody’s prepared to divulge what actually happened…
22 April 2010 at 13:22 #51004
Stewart Hart
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Hi Steve

Thanks for your reply, I don’t think the engine has any association with the mill, its just part the general industrial exhibits.

Cheers

Stew
29 April 2010 at 20:17 #51253
John Browning
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That’s a very unusual design of slide bar. I don’t think I’ve ever seen slide bars beyond the crankshaft. I wonder why?
29 April 2010 at 21:19 #51255
Stewart Hart
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@stewarthart90345
Hi

John I found out a little about this type of engine from another Forum I post to apparently the type was very common in Navel ship because of its compactness and was called a return crank.

This link has some useful information on the type

A full size example of the Naval version is at the US Merchant Marine Academy.

http://files.asme.org/ASMEORG/Communities/History/Landmarks/5539.pdf

Regards

Stew
30 April 2010 at 13:25 #51275
Ian S C
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I visited Styal in 1984(last visit to UK), most impressed, as now I look after a vintage turbine here in NZ.According to the info I got then the water turbine was installedin 1903 to replace the100hp water wheelthat had been installed in 1819. The turbine was in use untilthe mill ceased production in1959.The large turbine has been carefully dismantled and will be put on display(quote from a visitors guide). I don’t remember the steam engine, it may not have been there in 1984. Knowing museums of this type it could have come from else where. Ian S C
30 April 2010 at 15:18 #51280
Stewart Hart
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Hi Ian

They do have the turbine on show close to where this Return Crank Engine is on display they have quite a nice display of other engine type that were used as primary power in cotton mills. Its a must visit place for anyone who his interested in UK Industrial history.

Cheers

Stew
1 May 2010 at 10:35 #51302
Ian S C
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I see there is a large unidentified horizontal steam engine that came from a dye works. Ian S C
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