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  • #104869
    SverreE
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      @sverree

      Professional machine worklights tends to be very expensive for the home workshop. Now, LED-lamps can be a very good alternative, like this lamp I found at Ikea in Norway. It is called "Jansjo" and costs £10 in the UK.
      jansjo-arbeidslampe.jpg

      The advantage with this lamp – apart from the low cost, is that it is a a low-voltage lamp (6 V, 3W I think, safe voltage for swarf) and its long flexible gooseneck.

      Here is how I mounted it on my milling machine:

      1.jpg

      And here a view of how strong the light is with two of these lamps:

      2.jpg

      I think I will fit my lathe with a lamp or two!

      Regards Sverre

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      #30417
      SverreE
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        @sverree
        #104872
        modeng2000
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          @modeng2000

          Sverre, I use them on my lathe and mill. They are good as they are not too large and don't get in the way and at the same time bright enough to give a good working light.

          John

          #104874
          Geoff Theasby
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            @geofftheasby

            Look for an article on this subject in MEW 200. Mains operated, clip-on, many types of bulb.

            Regards

            Geoff

            #104875
            SverreE
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              @sverree

              Geoff – MEW 200? The last issue out now is MEW 197….

              Sverre

              #104879
              Geoff Theasby
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                @geofftheasby

                Yes, Sverre, David Clark accepted an article from me on this subject, and said it would appear in MEW 200, the special issue.

                Regards

                Geoff

                #104880
                David Clark 13
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                  @davidclark13

                  Hi There

                  Yes, issue 200.

                  All scheduled in.

                  We are working ahead because of Christmas.

                  Currently scheduling articles into MEW 201 but really I should be working on MEW 202 schedule now.

                  regards David

                  #104884
                  Anonymous

                    They'd better live up to expecations, because I've just ordered three of them! One for the lathe, one for the vertical mill and one for general use. The lathe does have an industrial low voltage (25V) light on it, but I gave up using it because it eats bulbs, and they're not cheap.

                    Andrew

                    #104885
                    ChrisH
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                      @chrish

                      Hi SverreE,

                      I recommended these lamps from Ikea back in March in the thread 'Workshop Lighting'.

                      I have the one with a base for my mill, and the clip-on one for my lathe. I think they are excellent value for money and provided a very good degree illumination right where you want it, with the bulb bit being so small it doesn't get in the way. I would still recommend them!

                      Chris

                      #104890
                      Bazyle
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                        @bazyle

                        Any suggestions for converting regular worklight? google quickly comes up with GU10. Is that suitable. (voltage conversion obviously)

                        Might actually bother with an xmas sale to look for a triffid light as I don't have an IKEA around.

                        #104906
                        Les Jones 1
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                          @lesjones1

                          Hi all,
                          I had made lights from some aluminium tubing fitted with MR16 bulbs. (12 volts spot lamp bulbs.) I fitted 20 watt on my mill and drill and a 35 watt on my lathe. They all gave good illumination but the housing on the 35 watt one got too hot to touch. I have now replaced these bulbs with 4 watt LED bulbs. These give excellent illumination and the housing only gets warm. I have now fitted one of the Ikea lights to the other side of my mill. As others have said they are excellent and their small size allows them to be placed closer to the work. If you plan to modify the mounting then I would recommend tha base mounted version as the clip version is more difficult to modify.
                          Bazyle, How do yo define a regular worklight ? (Lamp type and voltage.) GU10 bulbs are mains voltage and available in halogen or LED versions. I would advise using low voltage lights.

                          Les.

                          #104911
                          Another JohnS
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                            @anotherjohns

                            As one of our workshop people here said:

                            You get a great little light, AND if you permanently mount the light, you get a hunk of cast iron from the base, too!

                            Certainly much better than CFLs or incandescents.

                            Another JohnS.

                            #104921
                            Bazyle
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                              @bazyle

                              Les, thanks for that – I thought the GU10 must be the size designation for one of those 12v downlighters.

                              I was thinking of the traditional 24v rather solid machine lights as I have 3 machines with them but no bulbs as Andrew mentioned above. Seems a pity to scrap the housing if it was possible to do a simple LED conversion with a different transformer and LED bulb.

                              #104932
                              Sub Mandrel
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                                @submandrel

                                Probably cheaper to by cheap and cheerful powerful LED torches and take the LEDs and drivers out of them than to go to the bother of buying the bits from Farnell or RS. They ought to be fittable to most types of housing. There was one in Machine Mart for about £7 last week.

                                Neil

                                #104947
                                Les Jones 1
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                                  @lesjones1

                                  Hi Neil,
                                  I also considered using the cheap LED torches wit the Cree LED's but rejected it for a few reasons. 1 when they are switched on on off they cycle through three modes of operation. (High power, low power and flash.) 2 You still need to find a flexible mounting. For these reasons I think the ones from Ikea are better. I got a LED torch cheaper than your £7 one. £4.48 with postage on ebay from Hong Kong. ( Item number 350642952389)

                                  Bazyle, You could use the 12 volt MR16 spot lights if you changed the transformer. Some of the £ shops have down light fitting which is the cheapest way to get the holders.

                                  Les.

                                  #104948
                                  Michael Gilligan
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                                    @michaelgilligan61133
                                    Posted by John Alexander Stewart on 28/11/2012 16:34:59:

                                    As one of our workshop people here said:

                                    You get a great little light, AND if you permanently mount the light, you get a hunk of cast iron from the base, too!

                                    Certainly much better than CFLs or incandescents.

                                    Another JohnS.

                                    John,

                                    For info …

                                    At least in recent models; the insert in the base appears to be some sort of Iron-loaded Rubber, not actual Cast Iron.

                                    MichaelG.

                                    #104955
                                    Sub Mandrel
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                                      @submandrel

                                      Hi Les,

                                      I was suggesting them as a source for replacing traditional bulbs in existing mountings.

                                      My stepson has found some very good torches on fleabay.

                                      neil

                                      #104961
                                      GaryM
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                                        @garym

                                        For info GU10 refers to the base connector style of the lamp.

                                        HTH

                                        Gary

                                        #104967
                                        Michael Gilligan
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                                          @michaelgilligan61133
                                          Posted by Gary Marland on 28/11/2012 22:26:41:

                                          For info GU10 refers to the base connector style of the lamp.

                                          HTH

                                          Gary

                                           

                                           

                                          Please also be aware that GU10 bulbs are Mains Voltage

                                          The light source itself may be LED, or whatever

                                          … but the terminals are Mains Voltage.

                                          Useful list here

                                          MichaelG.

                                           

                                          Edited By Michael Gilligan on 28/11/2012 22:50:46

                                          #104972
                                          merlin
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                                            @merlin98989

                                            At £10 these Janso low-voltage lights are what I have been searching for for years.

                                            Ikea's website reads as though I can't order, and have delivered, via the internet in the nomal way.

                                            There is a basic charge of £15 within the branch delivery area, or have I misunderstood?

                                            #104976
                                            merlin
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                                              @merlin98989

                                              My apologies: Ikea do deal with internet orders in the usual way, but I didn't find it easy to register.

                                              Perhaps it is my fault – it often is these days.

                                              #104982
                                              Clive Hartland
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                                                @clivehartland94829

                                                IKEA have a 'Guest' purchase box for one offs, just log into that and a way you go!

                                                Clive

                                                #104992
                                                DMB
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                                                  @dmb

                                                  I went this route:-

                                                  1) Purchased some small rubber coated LED torches, the type with an on/off rubber switch on opposite end to LEDs, cheapest found to be £2 only.

                                                  2)Purchased some small magnetic stands @ ME exhibitions, I think could have been about £9 but cannot remember with certainty.

                                                  3)Purchased some metal clamp rings with a rubber – like coating (good grip). These were about 1/4" or so wide and about 1" I.D., with a small screw hole in the 2 ends.

                                                  4)Brass screw + nut to tighten clamp which was already a good close fit on torch body and excess length of screw thread inserted in to magnetic stand clamp and voila!

                                                  Two of these contraptions, one each side of mill vice, just perfect. Also one on back end Myford X – slide and on drill. Will be using them on T&C grinders soon.

                                                  #104993
                                                  DMB
                                                  Participant
                                                    @dmb

                                                    Sorry, forgot to mention sources of ring clamps. Some came from a regular "junk stall" @ last ME exhibition and some came from a stall @ Wiston (Nr. Steyning, Sussex) Traction Engine Rally back in the Summer. Sun actually shone that day.

                                                    #104995
                                                    Anonymous

                                                      I ordered online from IKEA as a 'guest', no registering hassle and no user IDs and passwords to forget. Delivery was £5 plus VAT. No brainer really as my nearest IKEA store is Milton Keynes, which is well over an hours drive away, and my one visit there wasn't a pleasant experience.

                                                      Regards,

                                                      Andrew

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