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    Bo’sun
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      @bosun58570

      Good afternoon All,

      As the title suggests, what adhesive to fix Neodymium Magnets to Mild Steel?

      I have Araldite and JB Weld. Are there better options?

      I guess roughing-up (and degreasing of course) both surfaces would be a good idea.

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      Bo’sun
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        @bosun58570

        To fix Neodymium Magnets.

        #657625
        Michael Gilligan
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          @michaelgilligan61133

          There are some very good double-sided tapes available these days

          MichaelG.

          #657626
          Ady1
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            @ady1

            pinkgrip

            #657628
            Clive Foster
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              @clivefoster55965

              Pattex branded cyanoacrylate (superglue) worked fine for me when I put magnets into the aluminium soft jaw covers I use on my big Record vice. Magnets came from a LiDL "40 pack" and were recessed into the alloy. Cleaned before sticking but not abraded.

              I have my doubts about Pinkgrip. Instructions say one surface should be porous. My experience is that sticking metal or similar impermeable substance on to wood or similar surfaces results in far longer drying times, up to 2 days, than sticking to porous surfaces together.

              Clive

              #657631
              modeng2000
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                @modeng2000

                Magnetism is good.

                #657632
                Michael Gilligan
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                  @michaelgilligan61133
                  Posted by modeng2000 on 23/08/2023 14:38:50:

                  Magnetism is good.

                  .

                  Sounds an attractive option yes

                  MichaelG.

                  #657634
                  John Rudd
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                    @johnrudd16576

                    Is that a repulsive answer Michael? 🤣

                    I’ll get me coat…

                    #657637
                    JasonB
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                      @jasonb

                      JBWeld would be attractive if it's going to get hot or come into contact with fuel

                      #657644
                      Bo’sun
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                        @bosun58570

                        Good point Jason,

                        Not fuel, but cutting fluid. I'm making some removable way covers.

                        #657648
                        SillyOldDuffer
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                          @sillyoldduffer

                          The tachometer magnets on my lathe spindle sit in a flat bottomed shallow recess. Whilst the magnets are more than powerful enough to stay on the spindle at 2500 rpm. the recess lip is needed to stop them sliding. No adhesive needed.

                          As Magnets and glue are both weak in shear, a physical restraint is best, not glue. Only needs a shallow lip.

                          Dave

                          #657653
                          duncan webster 1
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                            @duncanwebster1

                            You can get pot magnets with a countersunk hole in the middle, then bolt them on. Let ebay be your friend

                            #657661
                            Dave Halford
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                              @davehalford22513
                              Posted by Bo'sun on 23/08/2023 13:46:55:

                              Good afternoon All,

                              As the title suggests, what adhesive to fix Neodymium Magnets to Mild Steel?

                              I have Araldite and JB Weld. Are there better options?

                              I guess roughing-up (and degreasing of course) both surfaces would be a good idea.

                              Watch the roughing up, Neodymium is very prone to rust hence the plating on them.

                              #657673
                              Anonymous
                                Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 23/08/2023 16:23:43:

                                As Magnets and glue are both weak in shear, a physical restraint is best, not glue. Only needs a shallow lip.

                                In my day, most typical adhesives were considered strong in shear, weak in tension – cyano-acrylate (superglue) aside which was developed (as Eastman 910) to be relatively weak in shear for specific purposes.

                                Must be something else that changed in the modern world that I can't keep up with.

                                #657674
                                bernard towers
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                                  @bernardtowers37738

                                  as most news are nickel plated a lot of glues don't grip too well what I have done in the past is to bore a close fitting recess and fit the magnet then distort the edges slightly as the mags have slightly rounded edges.

                                  #657726
                                  Bo’sun
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                                    @bosun58570

                                    Good morning All,

                                    I like the idea of cutting a recess for the magnets, but the material is only 1/16" thick. Yes, a 1/32" recess would be possible, but the steel strip is quite narrow, and I fear any recess(s) would weaken it.

                                    I'll experiment with JB Weld and bear in mind the comment from Dave Halford regarding the plating on the magnets.

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