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    John Haine
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      @johnhaine32865

      Some years back I bought some ~6mm orange polyurethane round belt with little barbed joiners for my Quorn. The belt was like a thick walled tube and the joiners had circular barbed points at each end that you pushed into the bore of the tube. They seem to work well and now I want some more for my little Unimat that's having a proper motor fitted. Anyone recognise this and know where to find it please?

      The modern stuff I've seen from RDG and Chronos seems to be joined by melting which doesn't strike me as very secure.

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      #29866
      John Haine
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        @johnhaine32865
        #380794
        Nick Hulme
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          @nickhulme30114

          John,
          I use a 4mm round green Polyurethane belt which is joined by melting, I've been running a 28,800rpm engraving spindle with a belt I welded using a disposable gas lighter, it's only lasted me 5 years, so far.

          – Nick

          #380796
          anthony smith 4
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            @anthonysmith4

            HI JOHN LATHES .CO.UK KEEP BELT YOU WANT

            #380812
            Roderick Jenkins
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              @roderickjenkins93242

              Stationary Engine Parts also stock it: **LINK**

              HTH,

              Rod

              #380817
              ianj
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                @ians

                John.

                I bought a bespoke 6mm orange polyurethane belt from here :-

                **LINK**

                There are various diameters and types . If I remember correctly it was not much more than the type you join either by heating or with the barbed connectors.

                Ian

                #380852
                ega
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                  @ega

                  John Haine:

                  Do the barbed connectors bump when they go round the small pulleys on the Quorn?

                  #380856
                  Mark Rand
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                    @markrand96270

                    Welded polyurethane belt works very well. The trick to joining it is to hold/clamp it for much longer than seems reasonable after welding it. I don't know if it just takes a long time to solidify at the centre or if there is some sort of crystallisation going on, but it needs much more time than just the surface setting.

                    #380870
                    John Haine
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                      @johnhaine32865

                      Thanks all! I think I'm sorted.

                      ega: no they don't.

                      #380878
                      Ian S C
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                        @iansc

                        When I join the plastic belting, I heat a steel strip (an old kitchen knife), then hold the ends to the metal strip, then hold the ends together while pressing the belt into the V of a bit of angle iron to keep it aligned. I use two 5 mm belts on the Super Adept lathe, and I use 3 mm belts for drive belts on my hot air motors, all of these have been in use for over 15 yrs, maybe nearer 20 yrs. I use the green coloured stuff, it has a slightly rough surface, the first type that I got nearly 30 yrs ago was a pale colour(maybe cream). and it eventually became brittle.

                        Ian S C

                        #380889
                        ega
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                          @ega

                          John Haine:

                          Thank you – good to know.

                          I am using a vacuum cleaner belt on mine but may try the barbed connector route. I believe that someone has used polyvee on their Quorn.

                          #381003
                          Ian S C
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                            @iansc

                            Thin heat joined flat belt is a good drive for tool post grinders, and I think it would do well on a tool and cutter grinder. It is recommended that the flat belts are joined by the professionals.

                            I have used O – rings, these can be cut and joined with super glue, I made a jig to cut the ring so that the cut was about 30* to the length to give an increased glue area, it's held up well, although its a bit stretchy.

                            Ian S C

                            #381049
                            Grindstone Cowboy
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                              @grindstonecowboy

                              Probably too late, but I was just looking for something else on GLR Kennions site and found this belting **LINK**

                              #381057
                              Dave Halford
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                                @davehalford22513

                                Wasn't the barbed hollow belting also sold as emergency fan belts back in the last century?

                                I used some of the poly melt joining stuff for an IC model boat starter belt, it never broke despite the miss treatment I gave it. 15 years later it was rotted by the fuel

                                Edited By Dave Halford on 17/11/2018 16:23:35

                                #381060
                                ega
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                                  @ega
                                  Posted by Dave Halford on 17/11/2018 16:19:16:

                                  Wasn't the barbed hollow belting also sold as emergency fan belts back in the last century?

                                  Possibly by you!

                                  #381061
                                  Dave Halford
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                                    @davehalford22513
                                    Posted by ega on 17/11/2018 16:22:30:

                                    Posted by Dave Halford on 17/11/2018 16:19:16:

                                    Wasn't the barbed hollow belting also sold as emergency fan belts back in the last century?

                                    Possibly by you!

                                    Via Arry Moss or Hoddy Patkirk smiley

                                    #383491
                                    BOB BLACKSHAW 1
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                                      @bobblackshaw1

                                      As I am on my 5th Gates 5m710 belt as they keep splitting, plus they are expensive to buy, these polyurethane belts look like the answer for me.

                                      The two types, glue together or connector, which would be the best for the drive on my lathe,I have variable speed so the belt will not start with full load.

                                      Bob

                                      #383494
                                      John Haine
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                                        @johnhaine32865

                                        Bob, I can't comment for the welded ones but the barbed connectors seem OK. But I'm not sure if you can get the round belt in a large enough size? Have you considered using a twist link belt?

                                        #383503
                                        Michael Gilligan
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                                          @michaelgilligan61133

                                          This type of 'textured' belt from China: **LINK**

                                          https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3Meter-PU-Transmission-Belt-for-Watchmaker-Lathe-Jewelers-Belt-Watchmakers-4mm/301701793135

                                          appears very similar to the rather pricey Swiss product.

                                          MichaelG.

                                          .

                                          Edit: I purchased mine from ebay seller MerlinTools, but it is probably 'generic'

                                          … various diameters are available.

                                          Edited By Michael Gilligan on 03/12/2018 10:54:16

                                          #383523
                                          Clive Foster
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                                            @clivefoster55965

                                            The thin flat belts work very well on higher speed drives. The yellow one supplied for my Clarkson grinder running at 2,800 rpm on 3 inch (ish) diameter pulleys is more than satisfactory. However a green one bought from a transmission / bearing place for my SouthBend lathe many years ago didn't work very well. Torque transmission appeared to be limited and it was very prone to slip on all but the highest speed where it proved just barely adequate.

                                            Digging into the technical data eventually revealed that torque transmission of these thin belts is very dependant on surface speeds. It seems that stye of belt is generally optimised for high speed duties so technical data should be checked before using in other than like for like or factory / spares supplier approved duties. As I recall it they do vary and there is a reason for the different colours.

                                            I eventually got a leather faced fibre glass cloth backed Stephens Miraclo belt for the SouthBend which was wonderful.

                                            Clive.

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