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  • #208168
    OldMetaller
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      @oldmetaller

      Hi everyone, I've just bought some 10mm round acrylic rod to make lenses for two 16mm scale buffer stop lamps. If I was turning them in brass I wouldn't be troubling anyone, as I can happily create the shape I need. My concern is turning acrylic, as I've never worked with it before.

      So my questions are: Do I need lubricant? Will sharp HSS tools do it? What speed do I run the lathe at? How do I get a nice finish?

      I would be very grateful for your thoughts, please.

      Regards,

      John.

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      #29544
      OldMetaller
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        @oldmetaller
        #208176
        Ian S C
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          @iansc

          I,v been doing a bit of work on Nylon over the last few days, and trying a newly made carbide tool, but I think the HSS may be better.

          Ian S C

          #208178
          Steve Pavey
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            @stevepavey65865

            Sharp hss is fine – I use a high speed and a light cut with a fine feed rate. Polish with fine grades of wet and dry, say 220, 400 and 1000 grit. Finish with a spot of Brasso on a soft cloth.

            #208182
            Gordon W
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              @gordonw

              Just been making some washers from , I think ,acrylic. Just used same HSS tool as aluminium, no lubricant.

              #208188
              Neil Wyatt
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                @neilwyatt

                Polish with finest grade wet & dry or sponge block, then polish with autosol on a thick tissue.

                Neil

                #208190
                Alex Collins
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                  @alexcollins55045

                  Why not go and get some 10mm LED's from somewhere like Maplin ?
                  They come pre shaped and polished and the light will auto work….. ​

                  http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/10mm-white-led-n83kg

                  Edited By Alex Collins on 17/10/2015 11:30:00

                  #208191
                  Frances IoM
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                    @francesiom58905

                    there was an article in MEW (I think) sometime ago by Mark Neil who uses quite a lot of machined plastic in his various scientific instruments – I recall it as he had a lip salve applier to lubricate the cuts ! He also suggested the use of Red Leicester cheese as a lubricant (I’ve been on a short physical archeaology course run by Prof Neil and his instruments are extremely ingenious in using materials that you would never consider for the task in hand)

                    Edited By Frances IoM on 17/10/2015 11:56:30

                    #208193
                    Roger Vane
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                      @rogervane67137

                      I've turned acrylic using an hss toolbit in my spherical turning attachment to make a lens for an optical centre finder. Found that material tended to 'pick-up' badly if it gets too hot, After some failures (experimentation?) I found that a fine feed, fairly low rpm and coolant gave a clean cut. I used WD40 as the coolant, and it seemed to work ok, with a much better finish than when machined dry – and no 'picking-up'.

                      This was followed by polishing with wet and dry of around 800 grit and then Solvol Autochrome metal polish. The metal polish transforms the finish and visibility through the lens.

                      #208194
                      David Clark 13
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                        @davidclark13

                        I used to mill acrylic rod dry with a very sharp cutter no problems. Polished ends with fine wet and dry used wet followed by brasso. They were optical components so had to have a polished finish.i

                        #208219
                        Neil Wyatt
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                          @neilwyatt

                          It's Mark Noel. Wait 'til his 'multigrinder' appears in MEW

                          Neil

                          #208222
                          Michael Gilligan
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                            @michaelgilligan61133

                            **LINK**

                            [presumably] not to be confused with the Tattoo Artist.

                            MichaelG.

                            #208226
                            Speedy Builder5
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                              @speedybuilder5

                              Red Leicester sounds good Grommet!! Lets get some in, shall we?

                              #208228
                              Nick Hughes
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                                @nickhughes97026

                                A dip in pure Acetone will give the final polish to acrylic. Just in and out then let it dry naturally.

                                #208232
                                Frances IoM
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                                  @francesiom58905

                                  thanks Neil – catch with an old memory and no immediate access to mags.

                                  He definately had a photo of some small cylinders of cheese and suggested that they would make a cheaper lubricant for cutting perspex than his first suggestion of lip salve

                                  #208249
                                  OldMetaller
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                                    @oldmetaller

                                    Thank you all for that- I'll get stuck in tomorrow and see how I get on. I can't bring myself to waste *CHEESE* in the lathe, so it'll have to be WD40 or Lipsyl!

                                    I would normally use LED's, but I'm using up my old stock of miniature bulbs as I can't bear to waste anything!

                                    Thanks again all.

                                    John.

                                    #208263
                                    Frances IoM
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                                      @francesiom58905

                                      just rememembered that I had my usually UK based camera with me here in IoM – on which I have photos of Mark Noel’s article – pp26/29 MEW Dec 2013 – “The Lipsalve Lubricator” – Red Leicester is recommended for machining al alloys, brass + plastic – apparently a good lubricant, smells delicious and ‘any spares make good snacks’.
                                      The article is both funny and informative – rather like his lectures + demos on physical archaeology

                                      Edited By Frances IoM on 17/10/2015 19:20:22

                                      #208272
                                      OldMetaller
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                                        @oldmetaller

                                        Hello again everybody…well, I couldn't wait until tomorrow, so I got stuck in and made the two red lenses out of the red acrylic rod. Sorry it's not a great photo, I only had my phone to hand.

                                        The acrylic machined beautifully, no noise, just pink ribbons of 'swarf' peeling off (that reminded me strangely of a favourite childhood confection), tending to hang about due, I imagine, to static electricity. I used no lubricant, sharp HSS and steady turning speeds and was delighted by the results.

                                        Another string to my bow, and thanks again for all the great advice freely shared!

                                        Here are the unfinished buffer stops with the buffer stop lamp illuminated. I just need to get on with the weathering and distressing now.

                                        Regards,

                                        John.

                                        buffer stop lamp.jpg

                                        #208274
                                        Jens Eirik Skogstad 1
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                                          @jenseirikskogstad1

                                          Polish with flame from torchlamp. **LINK**

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