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    Windy
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      #109867
      Windy
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        @windy30762

        I have acquired a quantity of gauge plate and wonder if it will be suitable to make lathe and milling machine form tools.

        The cutting tools would be used to profile high tensile material.

        If so the best ways to harden it using just a propane torch and or a burner ring.

        Is it also possible to put a joggle in 1/16" and 3/32" gauge plate without heat or is it too tough and would crack?

        Suggestions always welcome.

        Paul

        #109869
        JohnF
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          Hi Windy, putting in a joggle probably not the best idea, its a pretty tough and not very ductile material, better to do it with heat but there again it depends on how big a joggle and how close together you want the bends? If you do try it cold it depends on the final use–heat treated or left soft? If to be left soft it would be wise to normalise the component.

          Form tools, yes it works I have used it in the past but only on softer steels, you would have to run quite slow with plenty of coolant to avoid overheating.

          Heat treatment, depends on the size of the tool [x section] you may well be able to use a torch providing it is big enough to get the tool [cutting end] to the correct temperature and quench in oil, temper VERY carefully to a very pale straw and heat slowly. Also make sure you are in daylight when tempering do not try to do it in artificial light the colours are not correct.

          Regards John

          #109875
          Windy
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            @windy30762

            Thanks JohnF,

            I thought it might be pushing it trying to put a joggle in it will maybe machine the offset out of some thicker plate?

            I have used HSS tools run slow to machine some very tough high performance full size car exhaust valves for my flash steamer.

            One use for the form tools will be to create the ball ends for the prop shaft universal joints very high tensile steel bolts are used for the coupling.

            Paul

            #109876
            JohnF
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              @johnf59703

              Paul, Its worth bearing in mind carbon steel is actually capable of being harder than HSS and will take a finer edge. An old guy I knew in the gun trade in Birmingham always made his chamber reamers from case hardened mild steel and because they were "sharper" than HSS, the results were excellent. Have to say though modern tooling is now very "technical" and the results from it are amazing!

              What size dia are your ball ends? Presume you have thought about a ball turning attachment!

              John

              #109879
              Windy
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                @windy30762

                I have thought of making a ball turning attachment! but at the moment have very little use for one.

                A form tool would be easier to make as the ball joints are a one off and once set up would make a few spares.

                The ball ends are 3/8" diameter with a hardened cross pin.

                Making tooling and jigs is something that I enjoy but with time being limited getting the model running is first priority.

                Paul

                #109964
                Ian S C
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                  Paul, run the lathe in back gear, and take it quietly, but positively, and pour on a good amount of suds. Rough the ball down to nearly the size, the form tool will not need to take off very much, one of those jobs that takes longer to set up, than to do, I know, I,v had quite a few, although my form tools were mostly3/8" and 7/16" HSS, except for one or two made from bits of old files clamped on a mild steel bar (in a similar way that carbide tips are clamped with a bridge clamp). Ian S C

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