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  • #638753
    petro1head
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      @petro1head

      I have noticed on a few YouTube vids people using a 6 jaw chuck

      I am curious as to the advantage of this

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      #29103
      petro1head
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        @petro1head
        #638755
        Martin Kyte
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          @martinkyte99762

          Far more support to the workpiece. More jaw less gap. Collets are better still.

          regards Martin

          #638763
          Hopper
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            @hopper

            Good holding power for precision work on bigger lathes with high cutting forces. But if the stock is a bit out of round or rough, a three-jaw will often give better grip. You absolutely don't need a six jaw chuck on the average hobby lathe.

            #638768
            Henry Brown
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              @henrybrown95529

              When I was on the handles we only used 4 jaw chucks for big work where large depth of cut/high feed was used, 3 jaw chucks were occasionally used for light work and capstans for round and hex repetition stuff. The 120" chuck on the Webster & Bennett vertical borer that they had only used 4 jaws or the chuck was used as a faceplate.

              I can't remember seeing 6 jaws in the UK workshops I've been in and as Hopper says they are only really any use for good symetrical stock if they work on the scroll mechanism that most 3 jaw chucks have.

              Edited By Henry Brown on 23/03/2023 10:52:39

              #638769
              petro1head
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                @petro1head

                Thanks, like i say, it was just out of interest, not going to buy one

                #638773
                Martin Kyte
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                  @martinkyte99762

                  Our mechanical workshop has several. They are particularly useful for reducing distortion when holding bored out components with thin walls. Chuck a bit of tube in a 3 jaw and bore it. When it comes off the machine the bore will be trilobite to a degree.

                  regards Martin

                  #638790
                  Andrew Tinsley
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                    @andrewtinsley63637

                    I use one for the opposite reasons given above, they are ideal for turning large diameter rings that are of thin section. Much better than a 4 jaw at holding shape.

                    I was given an old stock, unused Pratt Burnered 6 jaw with five sets of jaws all different. It must have cost a fortune. I would not buy one for the amount of work that it has done. But is very useful when needed.

                    Andrew.

                    Edited By Andrew Tinsley on 23/03/2023 12:04:05

                    #638792
                    Martin Kyte
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                      @martinkyte99762
                      Posted by Andrew Tinsley on 23/03/2023 12:03:35:

                      I use one for the opposite reasons given above, they are ideal for turning large diameter rings that are of thin section. Much better than a 4 jaw at holding shape.

                      I was given an old stock, unused Pratt Burnered 6 jaw with five sets of jaws all different. It must have cost a fortune. I would not buy one for the amount of work that it has done. But is very useful when needed.

                      Andrew.

                      Edited By Andrew Tinsley on 23/03/2023 12:04:05

                      I thought that was exactly what I said?

                      regards Martin

                      #638810
                      Robert Atkinson 2
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                        @robertatkinson2
                        Posted by Martin Kyte on 23/03/2023 11:09:19:

                        Our mechanical workshop has several. They are particularly useful for reducing distortion when holding bored out components with thin walls. Chuck a bit of tube in a 3 jaw and bore it. When it comes off the machine the bore will be trilobite to a degree.

                        regards Martin

                        How do you make an extinct arthropod out of a bit of tube? wink

                        #638813
                        Martin Kyte
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                          @martinkyte99762

                          Not only that but an educated one too. I obviously meant Tri-lobate. Blasted auto correct , at it again.

                          😵‍💫

                          #638815
                          Clive Foster
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                            @clivefoster55965
                            Posted by Robert Atkinson 2 on 23/03/2023 13:50:44:

                            Posted by Martin Kyte on 23/03/2023 11:09:19:

                            Our mechanical workshop has several. They are particularly useful for reducing distortion when holding bored out components with thin walls. Chuck a bit of tube in a 3 jaw and bore it. When it comes off the machine the bore will be trilobite to a degree.

                            regards Martin

                            How do you make an extinct arthropod out of a bit of tube? wink

                             

                            Sedimentary my dear Robert.

                            The drill sharpening device one my Clarkson Tool and Cutter grinder has a 6 jaw chuck to accurately hold all the drill sizes within its range. 6 jaws are needed to retain concentricity when gripping on teh webs. The sharpener rotates to generate the drill point so, presumably this geometry requires the drill point to be concentric to the rotation axis regardless of size. A simple Vee trough and top clamp will hold a goodly range of sizes but the point height must vary with size.

                            Clive

                            Edited By Clive Foster on 23/03/2023 14:05:01

                            #638827
                            Harry Wilkes
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                              @harrywilkes58467

                              Without going into the pro's n con's you find on youtube on creator fits a 6 jaw chuck then other do bit like when someone put a steering wheel on their mill everyone got on the band wagon

                              H

                              #638832
                              Grindstone Cowboy
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                                @grindstonecowboy

                                +1 on what Harry says – afraid it's the nature of the beast that is Youtube.

                                Rob

                                #638848
                                Dave Halford
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                                  @davehalford22513

                                  Rotagrip lists them as a drill grinding chuck.

                                  #638851
                                  Mike Poole
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                                    @mikepoole82104

                                    I notice Stefan Gotteswinter uses a 6 jaw chuck, he doesn’t seem to be a man who would not have a very good reason to use one when required.
                                    Mike

                                    #638854
                                    old mart
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                                      @oldmart

                                      The six jaw chucks intended for holding drills have very thin teeth as they are then able to grip smaller drills. The type with conventional jaws work well with thin wall tubes as already mentioned, quicker than machining special soft jaws to reduce the distortion with a three jaw chuck. The cheap six jawed chucks only have internal jaws, and the high end ones with both sets cost an arm and a leg, one reason why I have never bought one. They can suffer the same shortcomings as self centralising four jaw chucks, if the workpiece is a perfect cylinder, the clamping will vary and if the workpiece is not a perfect cylinder the same happens, something not present in a three jaw chuck.

                                      #638857
                                      noel shelley
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                                        @noelshelley55608

                                        Yep ! six jaw on drill grinders, though early Brierleys had 4 Jaw ! Noel.

                                        #638867
                                        Andrew Tinsley
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                                          @andrewtinsley63637

                                          Thanks Old Mart,

                                          Now I know what the very slim set of jaws are for. It had puzzled me for years!

                                          Andrew.

                                          #638868
                                          Andrew Tinsley
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                                            @andrewtinsley63637

                                            Thanks Old Mart,

                                            Now I know what the very slim set of jaws are for. It had puzzled me for years!

                                            Andrew.

                                            #638873
                                            old mart
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                                              @oldmart

                                              Cutwel used to list an eight jaw chuck on their website.

                                              #638875
                                              DC31k
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                                                @dc31k
                                                Posted by Harry Wilkes on 23/03/2023 15:16:52:

                                                …like when someone put a steering wheel on their mill everyone got on the band wagon

                                                I know, terrible isn't it? Write to Wayne Moore and tell him to rectify his jig borers immediately.

                                                #638877
                                                DiogenesII
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                                                  @diogenesii

                                                  Does anyone have/use a 2-jaw chuck..?

                                                  #638880
                                                  Martin Kyte
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                                                    @martinkyte99762
                                                    Posted by DiogenesII on 23/03/2023 19:57:01:

                                                    Does anyone have/use a 2-jaw chuck..?

                                                    Yes

                                                    regards Martin

                                                    #638893
                                                    Jelly
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                                                      @jelly
                                                      Posted by Mike Poole on 23/03/2023 17:18:43:

                                                      I notice Stefan Gotteswinter uses a 6 jaw chuck, he doesn’t seem to be a man who would not have a very good reason to use one when required.
                                                      Mike

                                                      He seems to do a lot of high precision small parts where minimising the distortion of the part is key, so it figures…

                                                      I get the distinct impression that he's not so much a "YouTube Creator" so much as some guy who is really passionate about precision manufacturing filming things he does aas part of running his business that he finds too interesting not to share, and has got popular for exactly that reason.

                                                      My interpretation is that it's actually the grip-tru backplate which he finds useful on that chuck as it allows him to apply minimum required clamping pressure with the chuck then dial things for concentricity in by adjusting the chuck position on the backplate.

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