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    Dougie Swan
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      @dougieswan43463

      Hi

      Can anyone suggest the best size of grit for lapping in ic engine valves

      I'm thinking of getting some of the finer diamond grades

      Any advice

      Thanks

      Dougie

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      Dougie Swan
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        @dougieswan43463
        #634383
        JasonB
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          @jasonb

          I usually do mine with 600grit silicon carbide powder mixed with oil to form a paste. 100grams off e-bay will last a lifetime

          #634384
          bernard towers
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            @bernardtowers37738

            Carborundum is the paste to use as it does not bed into the valves or seats, I think I would be worried that diamond would do the opposite as its virtually indestructable.

            #634391
            old mart
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              @oldmart

              I went into Halfords ten years ago and asked for a tin of valve grinding paste, to my astonishment, they had never heard of it. I went to a small car bits shop and the guy said that there was a choice of two different makes in stock. I would choose the finer grade in the double ended tin. I would avoid diamond  abrasive for valves.

              Edited By old mart on 20/02/2023 21:09:39

              #634396
              noel shelley
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                @noelshelley55608

                I would use the double ended tin, it will last for years, Holts and chemico both do it, I'd go for chemico, If you have a branch of MPD near they will have it. Noel.

                #634425
                JasonB
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                  @jasonb

                  I expect Dougie want's it for model engine valves and even the fine half of a tin of automotive grinding paste is way to coarse for model use.

                  #634437
                  Hopper
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                    @hopper

                    Metal polishes such as Brasso and Solvol Autosol aluminium polish are a good fine abrasive for smaller jobs. Brasso is a bit too fine sometimes but the Autosol works well. As does Mothers Aluminium Polish. Never tried it on small model IC valves though.

                    #634454
                    Dougie Swan
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                      @dougieswan43463

                      Thanks for all the replies

                      I have used the fine end of car valve grinding paste and as Jason says it's a bit rough

                      I will try to get my hands on some finer carbide

                      Thanks

                      Dougie

                      #634502
                      Rick Hann
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                        @rickhann79631

                        Timesaver Sampler Pack. 8 different grades. 4 each for ferrous metals and 4 each non-ferrous metals. Non embeding! I have used it for more than 25 years. Rick

                        #634506
                        Dougie Swan
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                          @dougieswan43463

                          Thanks

                          Where is the sampler pack available from

                          Dougie

                          #634508
                          Ramon Wilson
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                            @ramonwilson3

                            Dougie – I have plenty of Silicon Carbide (Carborundum) powder in 280 (too coarse for piston/liner lapping actually) 320, 600 and 1000 grits.

                            Send me a PM if you want some.

                            'TimeSaver' is great but far too expensive when only small quantities are required.

                            Diamond is a definite no no if the surfaces are not hardened. It will embed itself into the material and no amount of solvent cleaning will release it all. You need a good ultra sonic cleaner to do the job properly.

                            Silicon Carbide is ideal – does a good job and is easily removed with a solvent such as cellulose thinner. I haven't done any valves but I have done the odd piston and liner.

                            I am disposing of some of my workshop – Silicon powder is no longer required nor some genuine Kasenite case hardening powder – if anyone else wants some then PM me.

                             

                            Best Tug

                            Edited By Ramon Wilson on 21/02/2023 18:38:32

                            #634510
                            JasonB
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                              @jasonb

                              Heritage steam do the sets, but at about £100 a pop that's a lot of valves you could grind in compared to £3-4 for 100grams of 600grit off e-bay

                              You could buy just a jar of very fine but it is still coarser than 600g

                              #634686
                              Rick Hann
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                                @rickhann79631
                                Posted by Dougie Swan on 21/02/2023 17:59:27:

                                Thanks

                                Where is the sampler pack available from

                                Dougie

                                I bought mine years ago from McMaster-Carr. There was a discussion a while back and if I remember correctly, it was hard to find in Europe and expensive. Probably not worth it for one or two jobs. I have built numerous engines over the years and I would not be without it. Still have 50% of it left. A Google search should turn something up if you are still interested. Rick

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