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    jomac
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      Hi, since the publishers forced Colin Usher to remove his index of ME & MEW off the web because of copywrite, I need to find the indexes for MEW, as I dont have all the issues, so other than drag out all the mags, (which at the moment are stowed away) is there a solution ???????. Or could this site put the indexes in say, the archives, or extras.

      John Holloway

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      jomac
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        #70414
        Terryd
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          @terryd72465
          Try Here, You have to download the databases and a small program to search them. You can also get them from Colin Ushers site on this page
           
          Regards
           
          Terry
          #70416
          David Clark 13
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            Hi There
            We did not tell Colin Usher to remove the indexes to Model Engineer and Model Engineers’ Workshop.
            We just stopped sponsoring his website so I assume he removed them.
             
            You can’t, as far as I am aware, copyright a list.
            Certainly you can’t with a list of ingredients for a recipe and I assume a list of the contents of a magazine is the same.
            regards David
             
            #70420
            Terryd
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              @terryd72465
              Hi David,
               
              I would have thought that the compiler of the list would have any copyright that is applicable by being the author.
               
              As well as Colin ushers (which is still on his website) there is also a good index here.
               
              Terry
              #70428
              David Clark 13
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                @davidclark13
                As far as I know, you can’t copyright a list.
                regards David
                 
                #70438
                Terryd
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                  @terryd72465
                  Hi David,
                   
                  Anything that is authored and original can be copyrighted.  These indices are more than simple lists they are searchable databases.
                   
                  If I create a new recipe with my list of ingredients it is copyright. Try making your argument with Hester Blumenthal.  I suggest that you check with your legal dept.
                   
                  Regards
                   
                  Terry

                  Edited By Terryd on 16/06/2011 21:29:45

                  #70439
                  John Stevenson 1
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                    @johnstevenson1
                    Posted by Terryd on 16/06/2011 21:22:11:

                    If I create a new recipe with my list of ingredients it is copyright.
                    Regards
                     
                    Terry
                     
                    Precisely your new list is YOUR copyright.
                     
                    Now if someone reads MEW and makes a list up then it’s THEIR copyright.
                     
                    So if Colin makes a list up as opposed to just copying one which is a breach of copyright the list is HIS copyright
                     
                    Other wise it will stop people reading books, getting information out of them and writing their own version.
                     
                    I must admit I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on television or forums.
                     
                    John S.

                    Edited By John Stevenson on 16/06/2011 21:43:50

                    #70442
                    Steve Garnett
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                      @stevegarnett62550
                      Posted by David Clark 1 on 16/06/2011 19:20:26:

                      As far as I know, you can’t copyright a list.
                      regards David
                       

                      Actually, as everybody else has asserted, it would appear that you very much can. Like John, I’m not a lawyer either, but the society of indexers has consulted one over this very issue, and his consideration of this is publicly available to read as a PDF – here. Seems pretty unequivocal to me…

                      #70444
                      blowlamp
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                        @blowlamp
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                        #70445
                        John Stevenson 1
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                          @johnstevenson1
                          Strong black coffee
                          Sugar
                          Hob nobs
                           
                          © 2011 John S.
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                          DerryUK
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                            #70452
                            Stephen Benson
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                              @stephenbenson75261
                              Posted by Derry Hincks on 17/06/2011 00:45:10:

                              My MEW index is here
                               
                              Derry.

                              Thanks Derry a fantastic resource well done

                              #70453
                              Harold Hall 1
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                                I have an index at

                                 
                                This displays the magazines content by subject, typically Welding, but does not list the full index with the issues in chronological order so is not ideal for John (Jomac) but may be of help. I will consider adding a chronological list when time is available.
                                 
                                Harold
                                 
                                #70454
                                Terryd
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                                  @terryd72465
                                  Posted by John Stevenson on 16/06/2011 21:43:14:

                                  Now if someone reads MEW and makes a list up then it’s THEIR copyright.
                                   
                                  So if Colin makes a list up as opposed to just copying one which is a breach of copyright the list is HIS copyright
                                   
                                  Other wise it will stop people reading books, getting information out of them and writing their own version.
                                   
                                  I must admit I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on television or forums.
                                   
                                  John S.

                                  Edited By John Stevenson on 16/06/2011 21:43:50

                                  Precisely John,
                                   
                                  My point exactly, for once we agree, what is the world coming to?
                                   
                                  Best regards
                                   
                                  Terry
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