How to tell if a Solidedge file needs saving?

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    lee webster
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      @leewebster72680

      As the title says, how do I tell if a Solid edge file needs saving? I am used to seeing an indicator on screen in other programmes, most programmes in fact. But I can't see any indicator on the Solidedge screen. It's not really that important if there isn't an indicator, I just want know if there is one.

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      lee webster
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        #647153
        Paul Lousick
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          @paullousick59116

          I don't use Solidedge but in my lifetime of using CAD (and other software), I got into the habit of saving the document every 15-30 minutes and always before closing down. It saves a lot of extra work if something goes wrong or you want to undo a change.

          #647161
          JasonB
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            @jasonb

            Does it not prompt you when you close down the file like Alibre and F360 do? Alibre greys out the save icon until you make changes to the file.

            Probably can be set to autosave at set times as well.

            #647163
            lee webster
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              @leewebster72680

              I am so used to there being an on screen indication that the file is unsaved that I just expect to see one. It's no biggie, I just want to make sure that I have things set right.

              #647165
              IanT
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                @iant

                SE doesn't 'autosave' (which is good in my view) but you can set up a 'save' prompt Lee. The default seems to be 60 minutes, which you may wish to decrease.

                Set up a Reminder to save Documents

                1. With a document open in Solid Edge, on the File menu, click SettingsOptions, and then click the Save tab.

                2. Choose whether you want to be prompted to:

                  • Save all documents at a specific time interval.

                    Create backup copies of modified, unsaved documents in the current Solid Edge session.

                  • You can specify that you want to Backup model files or Backup Draft files

                3. Optionally, you can select Prompt for File Properties on first save to have the Properties dialog box be displayed on the initial save of a part, sheet metal document, assembly, and draft.

                SE always asks you if you wish to save on exiting (e.g. closing) a drawing

                Regards,

                IanT

                #647166
                SillyOldDuffer
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                  @sillyoldduffer

                  I looked into this when I started with SE too. I'm pretty sure the software doesn't identify changed files.

                  CTRL-S saves the current file at any time. A timer can be set to issue save reminders, default 60 minutes. As it's a nag, I turned it off. Otherwise Files are saved when the package shuts down, or are Closed. There is an exception: the Close-and-Return button keeps the file in memory without saving it.

                  The reminder and Close-and-Return behaviours suggest SE doesn't encourage user saves. From our perspective, saving can be a bad move because it destroys the the Undo/Redo list.

                  May also be to do with the way SE manages big models. So far I've not modelled anything with more than about 40 components, which is a tiddler model compared with what SE can develop. SE provides ways of managing giant models that probably break the simple IN/OUT relationship between a file on disc and its contents in memory. SE allows files to be opened, worked on, and temporarily unloaded from memory to create space for more components to worked on. A behind-the-scenes file/memory management scheme is needed to do this, and the performance/capacity benefit of memory management is reduced if nervous users keep saving to disc.

                  However memory and files are managed under the bonnet, SE models seem to survive power-cuts etc. In my experience it's reliable. I've not found the absence of file changes tags to be a disadvantage.

                  In any case, believing saving files copies them to a safe place is mostly wishful thinking! It worked in the good old days when operating systems didn't use RAM unless they really had to. Not now! After about 1995 Operating Systems utilise all the RAM available. The most common use of 'spare' RAM is improving performance by loading and editing files in RAM, and only flushing files to disc occasionally. Thus it's possible that all ctrl-s does in modern software is set a new milestone and zero the undo/redo list. It's the operating system that decides when a physical save takes place, not the end-user.

                  Dave

                   

                  Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 01/06/2023 09:56:50

                  #647169
                  Circlip
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                    @circlip

                    While being taught how to wrangle AutoCad thirty years ago (after twenty years with a graphite stick), Instructor advised doing a 'Save file' every ten minutes. Still miss out now and again and it's a little bit vexing when a few hours work go down the pan.

                    Regards Ian.

                    Never had a BSOD Dave?

                    Edited By Circlip on 01/06/2023 10:06:25

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