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20 March 2022 at 18:19 #2125
Robin King
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20 March 2022 at 18:19 #590825
Robin King
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When LBSC started his construction series on Tich in ME 24th February 1949 he referred in it to the prototype designed/built by Leslie Clarke, who was then living in South Africa. Does anyone know what happened to the original loco or have any details as to it's current whereabouts?
20 March 2022 at 20:11 #590837
Simon Collier
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That’s interesting, I didn’t know that. Try asking on MECH. Forum where the loco people post these days. Julian Atkins might know or John Baguley.
20 March 2022 at 20:22 #590839
Robin King
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Simon,

Thanks – that was going to be my next try.

R
20 March 2022 at 20:45 #590840
Fowlers Fury
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Doesn't answer your specific question but there's some history of the origin of Curly's designs (plural !) here, which you're no doubt aware of:-
**LINK**

(Having built a Tich from Curly's book many years ago, I can endorse Leslie Clarke's criticisms!)
21 March 2022 at 09:00 #590875
Dave Wootton
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This is just a memory from reading something long ago, I think Leslie Clarke ended up in Australia, I seem to remember that he built a very well detailed GWR County class 4-4-0 to his own design that was featured either in M.E or L.L.A.S years ago, there was mention of his original Tich.

Dave

Edited By Dave Wootton on 21/03/2022 09:01:55
21 March 2022 at 09:50 #590878
Robin King
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FF – thanks and yes indeed, I understand the problem with the axle driven pump from my own Tich, and seeing mention of LC's being driven off the leading axle set me thinking about a re-design, and was what prompted my initial post.

Dave W – thanks – I wasn't aware of LC having moved to Oz; I'll have a read through my LLAS collection.

R
21 March 2022 at 10:51 #590889
Dave Wootton
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Robin

Could be wrong about the Australia bit – I have been before! All from memory and I can't check as I got rid of all my old magazines when i moved a few years ago, but I remember the County class clearly as a club member was well on with building Don Young's version .but couldn't definitely say if it was M.E or L.L.A.S.

Dave
21 March 2022 at 11:19 #590894
Robin King
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Dave,

No worries – my memory is much the same, but your mention of LLAS triggered some sort of recollection so worth checking.

R
21 March 2022 at 16:56 #590953
Nick Clarke 3
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The original general arrangement in ME is signed Leslie Clarke and credited as such by LBSC.

In 1970 a picture of his original Tich appeared in Smoke Rings having won a certificate at the ME exhibition, but how this is the ‘original’ when he only provided the GA and LBSC the rest of the design, and LBSC built his own loco, I am not totally convinced about.

A few articles by Leslie Clarke appear in the ME Index and also an obituary in issue 3939 vol 170 from 1993 but unfortunately this is an edition not in my collection.
21 March 2022 at 17:51 #590966
Fowlers Fury
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Obit took a bit of finding in ME 3939 v.170 !
It's a short item within "Club Chat" by Stan Bray based on information received from a George Feilan who presumably resided in Oz. Nothing is offered about the fate of his Tich though. Stan offered sympathy to Leslie's wife, son Terry & daughter Leonie. Perhaps some model engineer in Oz will post with more information.

I checked in Brian Hollingsworth's biography of Curly. There is a picture of "Mavis" the lady next door who nursed Curly during his final days. She is shown standing next to a Tich, possibly Curly's original build?
21 March 2022 at 20:07 #590994
Robin King
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Nick and FF –

Thank you both; more food for thought. It would be interesting to see some photos of Leslie's Tich one day.

R
22 March 2022 at 10:06 #591057
julian atkins
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Les Clarke's 3.5"g GWR 4-4-0 'County' appeared in Don Young's LLAS magazine. Principally the 2 piece cylinder block. The completed loco was gifted to the GWS at Didcot where I recall seeing it on display.

I don't have any info on the whereabouts of Les Clarke's original Tich or the highly modified Tich built by LBSC complete with wagon.

Cheers,

Julian
22 March 2022 at 13:35 #591106
Robin King
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