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    vic newey
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      @vicnewey60017

      I have a collet closer and step collets that came with an old lathe but do not belong to it.

      The thread is 8tpi and the locating shoulder for the spindle is 1/3/4"

      The Crawford step collets have 15mm shanks, 13mm thread

      Can anyone suggest the lathe this might fit please?closer.jpg

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      #20760
      vic newey
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        @vicnewey60017
        #608562
        Les T
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          @lest

          Looks like a Myford (or similar) thread and register on the holder that appears to match the

          taper on the stepped chuck. It would need a drawbar for the split chuck. The thread for the drawbar will

          depend on the collet make. Usually 0.625 mm pitch.

          Hope this helps

          #608564
          bernard towers
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            @bernardtowers37738

            not Myford as that's 12 tpi but could be Boxford

            #608565
            Les T
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              @lest

              Sorry, I missed the '8TPI' and 'Crawford!

              #608570
              Clive Foster
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                @clivefoster55965

                Smart & Brown used I & 3/4" by 8 tpi on the spindle nose of the Model L series plain turning lathes.

                Often configured as bench top capstan and second operation machines which would commonly use collet work holding.

                Clive

                #608574
                vic newey
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                  @vicnewey60017

                  Thanks for the suggestions everyone, Smart & Brown sounds most likely so far. There are no markings on the collet closer which might have been of help

                  #608592
                  old mart
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                    @oldmart

                    Measure the thread on the end of the collet, if it is 0.902" x 24 tpi W is will be the 2804 type used on the Smart & Brown model A and some model M's and L's.

                    Your collet threads would seem to be much smaller, but the closer looks exactly like the model A one we have.

                    Edited By old mart on 06/08/2022 21:24:29

                    #608604
                    DC31k
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                      @dc31k
                      Posted by old mart on 06/08/2022 21:20:39:

                      Measure the thread on the end of the collet

                      Previous discussion on the collets less than two months ago:

                      https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=180490

                      #608611
                      vic newey
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                        @vicnewey60017
                        Posted by DC31k on 07/08/2022 07:24:36:

                        Posted by old mart on 06/08/2022 21:20:39:

                        Measure the thread on the end of the collet

                        Previous discussion on the collets less than two months ago:

                        https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=180490

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                        It was indeed but that was for the standard 15mm collets that do fit my lathe and trying to be certain as to the thread as pointed out because of slight variations in threads. I did get a new die and found it cleaned the threads of the Boleys but only some of the Crawfords.

                        However the question here is completely different, it is about the collet closer dimensions and what lathe it belongs to so I can probably offer it for sale as it's useless to me

                         

                        Edited By vic newey on 07/08/2022 09:21:41

                        #608616
                        Martin Connelly
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                          @martinconnelly55370

                          The thing about the collet closer is that it is relatively easy to make, the step collets that go with it are the part with high value. Anyone who has the step collet is also likely to have bought a closer with it or, as I did, make one to suit. I also made the collet opener for an internal stepped collet.

                          Martin C

                          #608636
                          old mart
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                            @oldmart

                            It looks like somebody had a set of the collets and made a closer with the correct angle to enable them to be used on a Smart & Brown lathe. A drawbar to suit the spindle and collet threads together with an adaptor to fit in the spindle to keep the collets centralised. The closer would not be guaranteed to keep the collets aligned on its own.

                            #608642
                            martin haysom
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                              @martinhaysom48469

                              making one of these is on my to do list. i will be watching the adds

                              #608702
                              Howard Lewis
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                                @howardlewis46836

                                It looks like a Bell Chuck, often used by the clock making fraternity..

                                I have both internal and external varieties, which are pulled back onto a taper to either close or expand the work holder.

                                In my case, the closer and expander had external 26 tpi Britsih Standard Brass threads, so adaptors mhad to be made so that a 3/8 BSW drawbar would do the pulling to close / open.

                                Not being a clock maker, my heretical misuse for them is making / modifying / thinning washers!

                                Howard.

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