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    Michael Gilligan
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      #603687
      Michael Gilligan
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        @michaelgilligan61133

        Probably for the first time ever … I followed the link to an advert in a Youtube video !

        This contraption looks quite versatile: **LINK**

        https://www.sakertool.co.uk/pages/saker-multi-function-scribing-tool-2

        Has anyone here used one ?

        and, more importantly, is there scope for making something smaller, working on the same principles ?

        MichaelG.

        #603689
        Howard Lewis
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          @howardlewis46836

          Looking at the pictures, it sees to me that it might be less easy to set accurately than a conventional scribing block.

          It appears to be aimed at the building trade, where the level of accuracy is lower than that which we as engineers would require.

          Seems unlikely that I shall be either buying, or making one.

          Howard.

          #603690
          Michael Gilligan
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            @michaelgilligan61133
            Posted by Howard Lewis on 01/07/2022 07:08:42:

            Looking at the pictures, it sees to me that it might be less easy to set accurately than a conventional scribing block.

            It appears to be aimed at the building trade, where the level of accuracy is lower than that which we as engineers would require.

            […]

            .

            Correct, Howard yes

            That’s exactly why I asked the questions

            [ a first step in a process often known as ‘engineering’ ]

            MichaelG.

            #603693
            JasonB
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              @jasonb

              I had that one come up a few weeks ago and did not think it offered anything that my compass does for scribing (carpentry etc)

              Odd legs and be use for any of what they show in the video either by running the notch along an edge of the back of the notch against a vertical surface. Dividers will do circles. Both are also a lot less bulky. In both cases Substitute compass with a sharpie if you want to mark rather than scribe.

              On the gadget you could substitute a scriber for the pencil and it would be ok for sheet metal work if you do that sort of engineering

              #603695
              Michael Gilligan
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                @michaelgilligan61133

                Thanks, Jason

                From the very brief video advert, it looked promising … and perhaps better-built than some woodworking stuff.

                I was just wondering whether the general design had any potential at a much smaller scale.

                … Looks like the answer is probably NO

                MichaelG.

                #603699
                Bazyle
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                  @bazyle

                  A gimmick looking for some suckers? I didn't get to see a price.

                  I think these sort of things are invented by er sort of inventors, picked up by some marketing suit with no practical experience and added to the portfolio. Then they get bought by wives and other relatives looking for a present that fills the right price bracket to look appropriate.

                  #603724
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    @michaelgilligan61133
                    Posted by Bazyle on 01/07/2022 09:01:02:

                    A gimmick looking for some suckers? I didn't get to see a price.

                    […]

                    .

                    The price [which is of zero interest to me] was clearly displayed on the page that I linked.

                    I am [was?] only interested in the design-concept and its potential, if any, for miniaturisation.

                    … So, let’s just let this thread fade into oblivion.

                    MichaelG.

                    #603733
                    Nigel Graham 2
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                      @nigelgraham2

                      The blurb does say "woodworking" and show it posed on Sterling-board, which is hardly top-rate cabinet-making material; but it could be adapted for closer to our engineering needs.

                      I doubt it would confer any great advantage over what we already use though..

                      #603739
                      JasonB
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                        @jasonb

                        At about £8 it's not a bad buy and about the same as a reasonable compass so if you don't already have a compass for scribing then quite possibly the better option.

                        Fine fitted furniture still needs to be scribed to walls and around skirtings etc at least the stuff I make does and if I did not already have the compass and ability to keep it perpendicular to the surface being scribed would not mind if I was given one as a stocking filler.

                        #603751
                        Gary Wooding
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                          @garywooding25363
                          Posted by JasonB on 01/07/2022 11:22:25:

                          At about £8 it's not a bad buy

                          Where did you £8?

                          #603766
                          JasonB
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                            @jasonb

                            Google

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                            #603838
                            DC31k
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                              @dc31k
                              Posted by JasonB on 01/07/2022 13:14:32:

                              Google

                              If anyone is interested, there is a genuine Saker tool and numerous imitations, the main difference being that the genuine one is aluminium and the copies are plastic (and hence approx. 50% of the genuine price).

                              I bought the copy one and it is not good at all. It would be improved by being made out of rigid aluminium, but the hinging and clamping mechanisms are very poor. The deep hole pencil that came with it is good but the rest is only fit for the ideas box.

                              As a concept it is good, but the enginering details are lacking. One day, I will draw it up on the computer and make another that works properly.

                              Trend sell a better version, which has positive screw adjustment of the scribe width. Another one worth copying for your own use is this: http://www.tooleypark.com

                              #603842
                              Andy Stopford
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                                @andystopford50521

                                Well, having recently mislaid my compasses (used for the sort of site work that I believe Jason uses such things for), I decided to give it a whirl – the deep hole pencils are useful, and quite expensive in their own right, so at least it won't be a total loss if the gadget as a whole doesn't live up to the claims.

                                When it turns up I'll let you know what I think.

                                #603847
                                Michael Gilligan
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                                  @michaelgilligan61133
                                  Posted by Andy Stopford on 01/07/2022 20:06:34:

                                  .

                                  When it turns up I'll let you know what I think.

                                  .

                                  Thanks, Andy … and DC31K

                                  MichaelG..

                                  #603861
                                  Bill Pudney
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                                    @billpudney37759

                                    When I worked in a shipyard, the chippies used to use a scribing tool to match wooden wainscotting panels to a steel, frequently cambered deck. They were then cut by a handsaw with a ten or so degree angle so that the wainscoting finished at a good match. Obviously what everyone has previously said, but most of the chippies didn't have a special specific tool as described they used a small appropriate piece of scrap wood and a pencil.

                                    Nothing new, just good tradesmen!!

                                    cheers

                                    Bill

                                    #603863
                                    Michael Gilligan
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                                      @michaelgilligan61133

                                      Fair comment, Bill … but may I just say [once more, with feeling]:

                                      I am [was?] only interested in the design-concept and its potential, if any, for miniaturisation.

                                      MichaelG.

                                      #607220
                                      Andy Stopford
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                                        @andystopford50521

                                        Well, it took about two weeks to turn up, which is a bit rubbish considering that they charge you a quite unjustifiable £4.99 for the privilege (a charge not immediately obvious until you've gone a fair way through the ordering process)

                                        As for the thing itself, it's not bad, quite versatile and it's well made, though a the locking screws are a bit fiddly – I might make new ones with larger heads.

                                        I can't see any strong case for a smaller version – I think it would probably be unusable if significantly smaller. On the other hand, a larger version might be handy if you were doing lots of sheet metal work.

                                        #607227
                                        Michael Gilligan
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                                          @michaelgilligan61133

                                          Thanks for that, Andy yes

                                          I tinker with microscopes, cameras, and clocks … all of which led me to think that a miniature version might be useful.

                                          Something to be held gently twixt thumb and fore-finger

                                          But I might be barking [up the wrong tree, or mad]

                                          MichaelG.

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