Recommended Vice for Double Swivel Milling Slide

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14 September 2021 at 19:40 #562821
William Harvey 1
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Hi,

I am about to take receipt of this milling slide and intend to fit it on my Warco WM180 Lathe.

The links in Steve Jordans video showing how to fit the slide don't work and I was wondering what vice he had attached to the slide. I need a vice so looking for help identifying the correct one for this slide?

Thanks
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14 September 2021 at 19:40 #20441
William Harvey 1
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14 September 2021 at 21:20 #562835
John Haine
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Dead ringer for the Myford slide. Table is small enough as it is, do you really want to take up most or the available area with a vice? Often better to clamp work direct to table or have an angle plate with some toolmakers clamps.
14 September 2021 at 21:44 #562837
Harry Wilkes
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I have that type of vice and have to small vices that I sometimes use with it both I think are available from RDG

H
15 September 2021 at 07:43 #562856
David George 1
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I have a toolmakers vice with 50mm jaw and that is perfect for small items. There is a similar one on the ARC web site look up precision tool vice on there. I have made some small clamps to fit the vice and the slide.

David
15 September 2021 at 08:01 #562861
Ady1
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You will need 2 vices

One general sized one for general work and one for the work it cant do
15 September 2021 at 08:19 #562866
John Haine
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- According to Myford **LINK**
15 September 2021 at 08:32 #562867
Michael Gilligan
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Posted by John Haine on 14/09/2021 21:20:33:

Dead ringer for the Myford slide. …

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Noting this, and your follow-up post, John …

Does anyone know whether Myford has changed the spacing of its Tee-slots ?
- Chronos states Mounting Studs 30 mm between centres
- Myford seems silent on the matter
Just wondering

MichaelG.
15 September 2021 at 09:01 #562870
Bo’sun
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Good morning William,

I have that style of slide for my WM250 and use Warco milling slide vice item No. 9071.

You may be able to adapt the Warco milling slide base plate to fit your milling slide.
15 September 2021 at 09:32 #562875
Clive Brown 1
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Noting this, and your follow-up post, John …

Does anyone know whether Myford has changed the spacing of its Tee-slots ?
- Chronos states Mounting Studs 30 mm between centres
- Myford seems silent on the matter
Just wondering

MichaelG.
I have an elderly Myford vice, identified as an MA71, seemingly similar to the ones currently sold by Myford as their original small vice, but now in a choice of colours, and each with a different reference no.

The hold-down slots are 1 9/16" (1.562" ) apart which think is, or was, Myford tee-slot spacing.

My vice has been useful over the years, but there may now be better ones on the market.

Edited By Clive Brown 1 on 15/09/2021 09:33:18

Edited By Clive Brown 1 on 15/09/2021 09:34:24
15 September 2021 at 09:43 #562876
Michael Gilligan
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Posted by Clive Brown 1 on 15/09/2021 09:32:30:

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I have an elderly Myford vice, identified as an MA71 …

The hold-down slots are 1 9/16" (1.562" ) apart which think is, or was, Myford tee-slot spacing.

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Thanks, Clive

That was my understanding … Just wondered when [if at all] Metric dimensions had crept in at Myford.

MichaelG.
15 September 2021 at 09:52 #562877
John Haine
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Well, it says "mounting studs" are 30mm apart which sounds more like the mounting on the cross slide. This may be the alignment pins which both go in the same Tee slot IIRC

Edited By John Haine on 15/09/2021 09:55:51
15 September 2021 at 10:06 #562879
Mick B1
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It looks wasteful of space to bolt the vice to the slide with slotted flanges, as the Myford offerings appear to. The RDG item 10036 on their 'other vices' page looks most like the one I've been using successfully for 18 years – it uses counterbored capscrew holes through the floor to T-nuts. The Warco version 9552 looks similar, but they ain't got 'em in. However, mine's 3" wide, and I've not found another to match that.

Just make sure the spacing matches the vertical slide slots. On mine it's 1 9/16" (39,68mm), as described above by Clive and others. If more recent slides use, say 40mm, it shouldn't be difficult to find ways to accommodate that.

Edited By Mick B1 on 15/09/2021 10:12:44
15 September 2021 at 13:40 #562903
Michael Gilligan
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Posted by John Haine on 15/09/2021 09:52:44:

Well, it says "mounting studs" are 30mm apart which sounds more like the mounting on the cross slide.

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Yes, I quoted that … I’m just struggling to recognise 30mm as “a dead ringer for” anything Myford

I only have the fixed/plain Myford vertical slide, so I am not familiar with the swivelling version.

MichaelG.

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Edit: __ Hopefully this will link to the relevant Chronos image:

https://cdn-cmmdi.nitrocdn.com/QTmckfVCWrNdzGCkGjnubIsnGVHewLGe/assets/static/optimized/rev-819295c/wp-content/uploads/svms6.jpg

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 15/09/2021 13:48:46
15 September 2021 at 14:22 #562909
John Haine
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I'm fairly certain that one mounts it on the cross slide with the alignment pins and the tee nuts all in the same slot, so the tee slot spacing is irrelevant. I have the old style swivelling slide and the holes in that also do not correspond to the tee slot spacing.
15 September 2021 at 14:29 #562911
Michael Gilligan
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Thanks, John … Yes, the Chronos one can only realistically mount in a single tee-slot

Still struggling with the metrication question, and its ‘dead ringer’ status though.

MichaelG.
15 September 2021 at 14:47 #562916
John Haine
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"dead ringer" generally refers to impersonation not duplication, doesn't have to be exact. This product seems to look exactly the same as the "real" Myford one.
15 September 2021 at 14:58 #562918
Michael Gilligan
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Oh well …I always thought it meant something more like “visually indistinguishable from”

Never mind, I was only curious about the metrication

… I already have the one I want.

MichaelG.
15 September 2021 at 17:31 #562929
William Harvey 1
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Posted by Bo'sun on 15/09/2021 09:01:49:

Good morning William,

I have that style of slide for my WM250 and use Warco milling slide vice item No. 9071.

You may be able to adapt the Warco milling slide base plate to fit your milling slide.

The Warco 9071 (60mm Jaws) and the larger 9360 (83mm Jaws) look ok, can I use the larger and the smaller one?
16 September 2021 at 09:05 #562990
Andy_G
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Posted by William Harvey 1 on 15/09/2021 17:31:54

The Warco 9071 (60mm Jaws) and the larger 9360 (83mm Jaws) look ok, can I use the larger and the smaller one?

I think you only have 75mm cross slide travel on the WM180, so the 60mm wide vice is probably the most usable (bear in mind that some space is needed to be able to wind the cutter off the work, and it is occasionally desirable to be able to mill over the end of the vice).

I have a similar setup on a mini lathe with a 50mm wide vice and 70mm cross slide travel and occasionally wish for a narrower vice, but never a wider one (I’m sure I’ve seen a 38mm wide one that I was coveting, but can’t find it now.)

This is my setup – definitely get a vice that can be secured by through-holes (like the Warco 9552 or 9071).

Edited By Andy_G on 16/09/2021 09:07:16
16 September 2021 at 22:13 #563083
William Harvey 1
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Posted by Andy_G on 16/09/2021 09:05:14:

Posted by William Harvey 1 on 15/09/2021 17:31:54

The Warco 9071 (60mm Jaws) and the larger 9360 (83mm Jaws) look ok, can I use the larger and the smaller one?

I think you only have 75mm cross slide travel on the WM180, so the 60mm wide vice is probably the most usable (bear in mind that some space is needed to be able to wind the cutter off the work, and it is occasionally desirable to be able to mill over the end of the vice).

I have a similar setup on a mini lathe with a 50mm wide vice and 70mm cross slide travel and occasionally wish for a narrower vice, but never a wider one (I’m sure I’ve seen a 38mm wide one that I was coveting, but can’t find it now.)

This is my setup – definitely get a vice that can be secured by through-holes (like the Warco 9552 or 9071).

Edited By Andy_G on 16/09/2021 09:07:16

Andy, thanks, just looked at the Warco 50mm vice (also out of stock), but I have set a notification on both the 50 and 60mm variants
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