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    Sam Spoons
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      My old pop rivet gun is getting very tired and is struggling with the special rivets needed for my boat fittings (Monel alloy I think). Which kind off gun should I get, the options are bold cropper style or lazy jacks?

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      Sam Spoons
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        #547064
        Oily Rag
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          @oilyrag

          Depends how many you have to do. If a lot I would go for a pneumatic rivet gun, they give consistent riveting and don't tire you out (big advantage as the years progress) the downside is the cost. But just think of the pleasure it will give someone else when you've gone!

          #547066
          Sam Spoons
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            @samspoons83065

            Are you hoping for a mention in my will laugh ?

            It needs to be mechanical as it will be used off grid much of the time hence the two options above. It won't be used for huge numbers either.

            #547070
            Andrew Tinsley
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              @andrewtinsley63637

              I have quite a few hand rivet guns, from el cheapo to fairly expensive. None of them are particularly good. I struggle with stainless rivets, even my 2 feet, long handle ones exhaust me!

              Next time it will be lazy tongs and blow the expense.

              Andrew.

              #547073
              larry phelan 1
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                @larryphelan1

                Lazy tongs are the ONLY ones !!

                #547074
                Clive Foster
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                  @clivefoster55965

                  Sam

                  Lazy tongs style need a very firm support behind the objects being riveted to work well. Great if you can arrange things so your bodyweight can assist the job. Rapidly become hard work if using overhead or off to one side. They do tend to sakte off to one side when the mandrel snaps tho' so considerable extra care needed around nice finishes, whether paint or polish.

                  Wonder how good the battery drill driven ones are for anything beyond basic alloy rivets. £10 – £20 breed off E-Bay Amazon probably won't cope but "professional kit" priced ones can be found at arou d £100 from the likes of RS components et al.

                  Clive

                  #547086
                  old mart
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                    @oldmart

                    Lazy tongs are easy if there is room to use them. My fingers are arthritic and can only squeeze a few, whatever the size, and I bought a pneumatic riveter from Axminster tools. It came with a comprehensive kit of spares, new jaws, o rings and diaphragms, plus all the tools needed to work on it. It makes pop riveting a doddle.

                    #547087
                    Sam Spoons
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                      @samspoons83065

                      As I said above they have to be mechanical as they will e part of my boat fettling toolkit and almost always used where there is no easy access to electricity, much less to my compressor. I reckon Lazy Tongs are the way to go with due consideration given to their drawbacks as detailed above.

                      Thanks for the help.

                      #547088
                      not done it yet
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                        @notdoneityet

                        Lazy tongs, depending on the access of course.

                        You may notice that the lazy tongs nozzle will reach further into a restricted area, but the whole machine may be too long for full extension in a cramped enclosure. Your choice, dependent on your needs.

                        I usually use my lazy tongs but I also have a Spiralux riveting tool which is handy for the few occasions when space is limited or there are a lot of small rivets. The old kingklik item would only get used if I needed a smaller one and couldn’t find the spiralux (that’s if I knew where the kingklik was to be found, anyway🙂 ).

                        #547090
                        noel shelley
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                          Like many of the rest I would aim for lazy tongs – but buy a spare set of jaws for it and check they fit. Good luck. Noel

                          Edited By noel shelley on 25/05/2021 18:59:00

                          #547094
                          Samsaranda
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                            I have set many hundreds of pop rivets, having spent 22 years in the Air Force as an Aircraft Technician, my recommendation would be a pneumatic riveter as first choice but you state it needs to be mechanical so I would go for Lazy Tongs. As an aside I recently had a job that required a small number of pop rivets to be used, I opted for economy and obtained a cheap hand riveter, that was a serious error, it fell to pieces after only 6 rivets, if you are using Monel rivets you will need a fair bit of force to set them so lazy tongs will be substantial and your best bet. Dave W

                            #547095
                            Sam Spoons
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                              @samspoons83065

                              Thanks Dave W. I won't be doing large numbers but some will be pretty 'mission critical'. What set me off is that yesterday I decided to repair the D tube support pads on my boat launching trolly (the original rivets had corroded to nowt) and I had to use a Monel rivet for a job where an ally one would have been adequate as I only had 3 ally ones* in the tool box. It was extremely difficult to get it to set with my old riveter so I'm aware of how tough they are blush

                               

                              Amazon 'used' Draper 27839 duly ordered and on it's way, thanks guys.

                               

                              * It's a faff getting the boat off and back on the trolly on the grass at the caravan, and something not to be done at all on the drive at home.

                              Edited By Sam Spoons on 25/05/2021 19:40:57

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