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  • #17782
    Nick_G
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      #197894
      Nick_G
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        @nick_g

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        I am running low on neat cutting oil so need to buy some more.

        Anyone have any recommendation of brands.?

        Cheers, Nick

        #197896
        Ajohnw
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          @ajohnw51620

          I use one from Morris Lubricants. They will supply 5l mail order. I just smear some on work when I need to so it's likely to outlast me.

          **LINK**

          John

          #197897
          Roderick Jenkins
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            @roderickjenkins93242

            This stuff works for me. **LINK** Not bad value for 5l. I usually cut it 50/50 with paraffin.

            Rod

            #197898
            Nick_G
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              @nick_g

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              Cheers guys.

              What is the reasoning behind diluting it with paraffin.?

              Nick

              #197904
              Roderick Jenkins
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                Originally cheapness. I used to buy little tins of Cutmax from Reeves and diluting it with what was then cheap paraffin made financial sense with no loss of effectiveness. I've stuck with the habit but since paraffin is usually recommended for use with light alloys the cocktail seems to make a good general purpose cutting fluid. I've always been reluctant to use soluble oil because my lathe does not get continuous use even though water is an immeasurably better coolant. As I say, it works for me.

                Cheers,

                Rod

                #197912
                Steve Withnell
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                  @stevewithnell34426

                  Nick,

                  If you pass my way at all (Lancashire Riviera), you can have a couple of pints. I use about a teaspoon a week and I've rather a lot (Excelcut 401) under the bench…

                  Steve

                  #197944
                  Nick_G
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                    @nick_g

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                    That's a kind offer Steve.

                    You also got tea and biscuits.? winkwink

                    Nick

                    #197949
                    Ajohnw
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                      @ajohnw51620

                      Beta Buys etc sell some cheap wooden handled kiddies paste brushes about 12mm dia. I just put a bit on one of those and run it along the work. I don't make smoke though – I suspect that would be rather unhealthy. For cooling it would need pumping and filtering.

                      Mentioning oil I am rather pleased with the Rustfee oil I bought of AlexOil. I had a small 4 jaw go rusty so removed the rust with molasses, swilled under the tap and brushed a bit of the oil on it. It seems to do what it says and displace water. Next thing will be a wash down in paraffin at just under £8 for 4L. I haven't tried the heavier slide way oil yet.

                      John

                      #197974
                      Martin Cottrell
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                        @martincottrell21329

                        Hi Nick, I use this **Link** which, as Rod has mentioned above, I dilute with paraffin for the same reasons although I generally dilute 1:1 with paraffin for aluminium but use neat for steels. I keep a small pot of it usually located on the lathe cross slide and just dab a bit on with an old 1/2" paintbrush as and when needed.

                        Regards Martin.

                        #219813
                        Nick_G
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                          Posted by Ajohnw on 24/07/2015 23:09:28:

                          I use one from Morris Lubricants. They will supply 5l mail order. I just smear some on work when I need to so it's likely to outlast me.

                          **LINK**

                          John

                          .

                          As this has been raised in another thread I will add that I did purchase the above from Morris lubricants. I will say that IMHO it is an excellent product. smiley

                          Nick

                          #219832
                          Neil Wyatt
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                            I used to use neatcut in 1l bottles from Reeves, now I use the one from Machine Mart which isn't quite as pleasant, but being cheaper I can throw it about with gay abandon.

                            Neil

                            #219848
                            CotswoldsPhil
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                              Posted by Neil Wyatt on 07/01/2016 14:38:38:

                              I used to use neatcut in 1l bottles from Reeves, now I use the one from Machine Mart which isn't quite as pleasant, but being cheaper I can throw it about with gay abandon.

                              Neil

                              Just picked up my order of 5 litres from Machine Mart. Ordered on their Vat free day, so saved quite a bit. Just a brush and an empty soup can (with cutting fluid in it!) for me. It should last me a couple of years.

                              Phil

                              Edited By CotswoldsPhil on 07/01/2016 15:41:06

                              #219850
                              John Stevenson 1
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                                If you are using cans with brushes in drop a large magnet in a small ziplock bag in the bottom.

                                It will make it stick the the machine and stop any casual knocks and stop it tipping over and spilling.

                                The reason for the ziplock bag is when it wants cleaning wipe as much off as possible with a rag and then turn the bag inside out, All the crap is now inside the bag to be thrown away and you have a clean magnet to put into a new bag.

                                Stick this on the tips page if you want Neil ?

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                                CotswoldsPhil
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                                  Posted by John Stevenson on 07/01/2016 15:40:09:

                                  If you are using cans with brushes in drop a large magnet in a small ziplock bag in the bottom.

                                  It will make it stick the the machine and stop any casual knocks and stop it tipping over and spilling.

                                  The reason for the ziplock bag is when it wants cleaning wipe as much off as possible with a rag and then turn the bag inside out, All the crap is now inside the bag to be thrown away and you have a clean magnet to put into a new bag.

                                  Stick this on the tips page if you want Neil ?

                                  Thanks John

                                  I'll be doing that tomorrow I've knocked the can over quite a few times when attention has been more on the work.

                                  Phil

                                  #219855
                                  Ajohnw
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                                    I don't think that these oils are really suitable for what might be called high speeds smoky machiners and are at their best smokeless I suppose people could fill there suds tank with it for that.

                                    The price doesn't bug me as poor as I am Neil. It's cheap anyway. I just find little is needed in practice. Some pound shops sell wooden handled kiddies paste etc brushes around 10mm dia. I find a well drained brush of that is usually more than enough for one cut and way too much if the brush drips.

                                    surpriseAll I put on the lathe is slideway oil. I wanted a more viscus grade of that after using the one on ebay for some time now so had to sort out another supplier. Alexoil. Not sure how good it is yet and didn't fancy the sticky versions. Their Rustfee seems to be pretty good for preventing rust on things that have been completely degreased. I put 1L in a pump up garden spray bottle.

                                    John

                                    Edited By Ajohnw on 07/01/2016 15:54:50

                                    #219869
                                    JA
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                                      I used to use Reeves's neat cut and then found it was the the same (if my memory serves me well) as Morris's CORA B. So I bought CORA B and have been happy ever since since it is cheaper and comes in larger containers. It works well with steel, aluminium and bronze.

                                      Can anything be done about the spell checker provided. Aluminum instead of aluminium is just too much to take (and that is with British English).

                                      JA

                                      #219884
                                      Ajohnw
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                                        @ajohnw51620

                                        Off Topic. Who's spell checker aluminium doesn't underline for me as the spell checker on my machine is Brit English. Aluminum does. However if I right click to correct an error the forum just comes up with paste for some reason or the other. This is the only site this happens on. laugh or should this be that

                                        On Topic

                                        The oil works on this material too.

                                        John

                                        Edited By Ajohnw on 07/01/2016 18:01:28

                                        #219891
                                        alan-lloyd
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                                          @alan-lloyd

                                          I use Angels Breath, 1 part real turpentine, 2 parts white spirit, 3 parts olive oil, lovely!!!

                                          #219895
                                          John Stevenson 1
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                                            @johnstevenson1

                                            I make my own tapping fluid.

                                            3 parts trike to one part automatic transmission fluid or just plain hydraulic oil.

                                             

                                            The tap winds it's way in on it's own with this stuff.  wink

                                            Edited By John Stevenson on 07/01/2016 19:38:34

                                            #219901
                                            oldvelo
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                                              Hi

                                              Off Topic but happy to run alongside

                                              To apply cutting oil I use an oil can with a wide base and and very short in height and stick a "Pipe Cleaner" like thing from the local craft shop pushed down the spout with just a few bristles sticking out.

                                              Gentle pressure on the lever and you have constantly rechargeable brush.

                                              Push too hard and a big oily worm and a mess everywhere if you do not restrain it in the detachable spout by a small loop in the end.

                                              No prizes for guessing how I learned this.

                                              Eric

                                              #219909
                                              Ajohnw
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                                                Having been told by some one who would be extremely old now if still alive that sperm whale oil is best for taps and dies I've bought a bottle of jojoba oil. Going on it's properties it might make a very good rather low speed cutting oil.

                                                It's mentioned here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperm_oil

                                                I bought organic of course.

                                                Any good – TBD but the hand soap we use is excellent on aluminium. Not so keen on tap and die stuff that can be bought but it may work more effectively on some materials.

                                                Taps and dies pulling themselves in Tut Tut bad practice. They will back cut threads already cut and "forward" cut these if people press too hard.

                                                John

                                                #220328
                                                chris stephens
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                                                  Hi Cotswoldphil,

                                                  Get yourself one of these;

                                                  http://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/09520057

                                                  Mine came over from the US as a gift from Tom Lipton, of youtube fame. Not bragging, just saying he is a very generous chap and all round good egg.

                                                  chriStephens

                                                  #220330
                                                  Hopper
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                                                    Posted by John Stevenson on 07/01/2016 19:37:58:

                                                    I make my own tapping fluid.

                                                    3 parts trike to one part automatic transmission fluid or just plain hydraulic oil.

                                                    Trike? What is that?

                                                    #220334
                                                    Speedy Builder5
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                                                      TRIKE, smoke a fag over it and find out! John, you should know better – I have to make do with carbon tet, sold from under the counter – of course.

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