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    Dullard Ard
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      Dullard Ard
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        Does any one know what the RAL, BS, or Pantone number might be for the green these machines are painted with.

        I can see it's available from Stationary Engine Supplies but at the eye watering price of £21.48 for half a litre (inc shipping) I can only imagine at that price it must have a high precious metal content.

        What I would like to do as something of a cheaper alternative is to pop along to Smith and Allan and buy a gallon of their excellent machinery enamel for something a "bit" cheaper than the above but to do that I need some kind of paint code.

        The colour dosent have to be exact as the whole machine is being painted.

        I did find a "recipe" for the colour using Humbrol Enamel on the Tom Senior Yahoo group but that also works our somewhat expensive.

        Cheers

        Dull

        #149432
        Lambton
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          Dull,

          Unfortunately all paint is expensive nowadays.

          If you can take a suitable part of the machine with the original paint on it to your local paint facto r(Brewers seam to be in most large towns). they can scan it and provide you with an exact match. They will mix up small quantities but 1 litre would probably be the minimum.

          Eric

          #149433
          Saxalby
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            Hi Dull,

            Paragon Paints do it for £26 a Litre.

            http://www.paragonpaints.co.uk/Tom-Senior-Milling-Machine-Green.html

            Regards Barry

            #149439
            Graham Wharton
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              Paragon Paints and Stationary Engine Parts are the same company. If you order TS Green from Stationary Engine Parts, they deliver you Paragon Paint branded pots.

              Cheers

              Graham

              #149440
              Dullard Ard
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                @dullardard78275

                Thanks gents,

                Paragon looked ok until you throw in the P&P and VAT it then rises to £34.36 for litre, I can get 1L Tractol single pack machinery enamel from Smith & Allan for £19.79 inc VAT & postage or around £40 for 5L.

                I might try and get some colour swatches and try to match something close enough from Smith & Allan.

                Dull

                #149513
                Robbo
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                  Dull,

                  Have a look at RESEDA GREEN RAL 6011. From memory that looks OK. Probably the same as the old Myford green

                  #150836
                  Harrison
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                    Dull,

                    The thing about paint is that many different brands can create similar colours but the quality of the paint itself can vary enormously between different suppliers and manufacturers. I would assume that like most people doing up a machine you have spent many hours of hard work and probably a fair bit of money in getting to the final paint stage.

                    Take it from one with experience who learned the hard way that last thing you want to do having invested so much to get to this stage is to go and finish the job with a cheap coat of paint that will either bubble at the first sign of cutting fluid or simply not provide you with a good durable finish.

                    Tractol may well be a good paint, I don't know as it's not a brand I have used but what I can tell you is the Paragon paint being sold by SEP is the proper job. I have been very impressed by the quality of finish, the ease of use and the colour match, it's by far the best paint I have ever used. As soon as you pop the lid off you can tell it's been made to a standard and not a price simply by its viscosity. Some cheap paints slosh in the tin like water, Paragon Paint is thick. It's supposed to be good to go as it is from the tin but I found that by adding just a tot of thinners it brushed out better, saying that I used it over winter and my workshop was cold at the time.

                    I know most of us operate on a budget but IMO the final finish of a machine restoration is not a an area to scrimp on, let's face it you don't want to be doing the job again in a few months time because the cheap paint you bought from your local outlet peels off as soon as you show it any oil or cutting fluid. Having used Paragon paint I wouldn't consider using anything else again.

                    The old saying of "you get what you pay for" is certainly true for paint products.

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