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  • #147160
    Adam Harris
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      @adamharris13683

      Can anyone recommend a jig for grinding and sharpening cutting tools to the correct profile/angles for lathe work please? The grinder to be used is a two wheel 6" bench grinder from Record (a fairly cheap model). Many thanks, Adam

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      #17341
      Adam Harris
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        @adamharris13683

        Recommendations for grinding jig to sharpen lathe tools & drill bits

        #147164
        John Coates
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          @johncoates48577

          The Harold Hall one must be a serious contender

          Look in either MEW 89 or his book "Milling – A Complete Course"

          John

          #147170
          Adam Harris
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            @adamharris13683

            Thanks John. Looks very interesting but i would rather go and buy something off the shelf for now. Does anyone manufacture an equivalent? Thanks, Adam

            #147172
            Neil Wyatt
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              @neilwyatt

              Hi Adam,

              I've never come across a commercial lathe tool sharpening equivalent of a twist drill sharpening jig.

              Neil

              #147173
              Anonymous

                For general purpose lathe tools, there is no need for jigs. You've probably already got the two things you need. One, a pair of hands and two, the Mk1 eyeball. None of the angles are that critical and are easy enough to judge by eye. A diamond hone would be useful to improve the ground finish, and add any small radii.

                Regards,

                Andrew

                #147177
                Robbo
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                  @robbo

                  If you want to buy a grinding table, have a look at this one on ebay **LINK**

                  Adjustable table angle plus a protractor should give you what you need. All you have to do is get the tool the right way round.   It's up to you to mount it in the place you want in relation to the grinding wheel.

                  I used to have one of these until I made something more hi-tech. It's probably still around somewhere, too good to throw away!

                  As Andrew says, you can manage with a standard grinder, but I found I was grinding/burning my fingertips!

                  Phil

                  Edited By Robbo on 15/03/2014 22:42:17

                  Edited By Robbo on 15/03/2014 22:44:14

                  #147178
                  I.M. OUTAHERE
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                    @i-m-outahere

                    David Clark described using a similar table in MEW a few issues back .

                    May have been the same brand as the ebay item , try Axminster or the local hardware store.

                    Ian

                    #147183
                    Bazyle
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                      @bazyle

                      Instead of a wobbly adjustable jig you can get an angle on the ground edge by rising above the centre line of the wheel when grinding on the edge not side. The amount of rise can be calculated, estimated by eye, or by making a drawing. You only ever really need 5 and ten degree settings anyway.
                      You can get up to height with solid squared up blocks of 4×2 wood perhaps notched to fit a little each side of the wheel. Pieces of thinner ply can then be added to increase the grind angle. Then top off with a steel plate say 1/8 thick to give a smooth slidey surface.

                      #147194
                      john fletcher 1
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                        @johnfletcher1

                        Why not look in back numbers of MEW and make your self several Eccentric type tool holders, together with the grinding jig. Then it is so easy to grind lathe tools.Cheap, cheerful and they work.Ted

                        #147195
                        Paul Lousick
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                          @paullousick59116

                          If you do not want to make your own tangential tool holder, get one from Eccentric Engineering. Comes with a simple sharpening jig which is easy to use on most grinders.

                          #147205
                          OuBallie
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                            @ouballie

                            Can second Paul's recommendation.

                            It also has the benefit of having an inbuilt 'fail safe' mode!

                            This I discovered when in a moment of madness I turned the saddle handwheel left hand down instead of right hand down, the bit digging in, BUT that 'fail safe' mode kicked in and the tool bit was pushed down the holder out of harms way.

                            Geoff – Old age is a real PITA

                            #147206
                            roy entwistle
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                              @royentwistle24699

                              Ouballie The alternative is worse

                              Roy

                              #147208
                              OuBallie
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                                @ouballie
                                Posted by roy entwistle on 16/03/2014 10:49:35:

                                Ouballie The alternative is worse

                                Roy

                                Ah but, if I get your meaning, it's no longer a PITA

                                Geoff – Feeling altogether better today, and that bright hot thing is back in the sky AGAIN.

                                #147216
                                John Stevenson 1
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                                  @johnstevenson1
                                  Posted by Neil Wyatt on 15/03/2014 21:47:32:

                                  Hi Adam,

                                  I've never come across a commercial lathe tool sharpening equivalent of a twist drill sharpening jig.

                                  Neil

                                  .

                                  Not really your weekend is it Neil ? wink

                                  Search for "Universal Sharpener "

                                  #147257
                                  Adam Harris
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                                    @adamharris13683

                                    Thanks John, that is exactly what I want, looks absolutely perfect – now searching for it on Google but to no effect! Will keep looking. Maybe the DIY Kennett jig would be good if I could find one of those too.

                                    #147264
                                    Adam Harris
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                                      @adamharris13683

                                      John, I have just now bought this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMA-WEA-50mm-2-Way-Tilt-and-Swivel-Milling-Vice-/261377023967?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cdb48dfdf

                                      I think it looks useful and I just hope it is moderately nicely made. Adam

                                      #147265
                                      Trevorh
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                                        @trevorh

                                        Have a look at this link here

                                        cheers

                                        #147266
                                        Trevorh
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                                          @trevorh

                                          Hi John how would you actually use this tool holder – have it moveable or have the grinder moveable?

                                          #147268
                                          Bazyle
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                                            @bazyle

                                            Pootled around and found this. which includes a welded version of the nice castings in JS picture.

                                            It looks like a rather versatile casting as you can make versions with 1 to 3 axes. It would be great if one of the regular ME castings suppliers would make the casting available then Neil could run a whole series of things to do with it. Heck it might even get me to subscribe to the other mag.

                                            Found this USA ebay ad for one at $99 so double the price and add £20 shipping for the UK and suddenly it becomes not so good.
                                            Anyone coming over care to put some ballast in their suitcase to give the x-ray operator a fright?

                                            #147282
                                            Adam Harris
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                                              @adamharris13683

                                              Hi Bazyle, you are much better at searching the web than I am! That "Shars Universal Vice Mill" looks exactly the job I would have preferred however I have already this morning paid £51 + £9 shipping for the less beautiful one on ebay UK called AMA-WEA 50mm. The Shars would cost £84 to import excluding VAT which would be charged at customs entry I assume, and although it looks better would need the degree calibrations put on manually to all 3 swivels, whereas the AMA-WEA at least already has the markings on the base swivel and possibly also on the tilt swivels. I plan to dismantle, true up if necessary, and use my dividing head to scribe in the degree markings to the tilt swivels if necessary. I will post better pics when it arrives if you are interested. Adam

                                              #147283
                                              Adam Harris
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                                                @adamharris13683

                                                Hi Bazyle, actually on closer inspection the Shars does seem to have degree calibrations on all swivels and so does look to me the preferred choice although unfortunately I have already dealt on the AMA-WEA! Maybe I will buy a Shars as well if mine looks a bit ropey in real life. Adam

                                                #147287
                                                Bazyle
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                                                  @bazyle

                                                  Looks like Trevor was first off the mark on the Shars unit while I was still writing. Importing one would be way more than £85 as they would ship by 'extorsionmail' though I have seen reference to a new system of using a 3rd party consolidation shipper.

                                                  Bog's unit is a (home made?) 'universal head' common for most tool and cutter grinders eg Clarkson (this is a great site by the way if you have a clarkson fetish). These are horribly expensive when they come up alone hence need for nice casting to be produced. Ok you can make something out of a bit of big angle iron section or cast angle plate but it's not the same and nobody seems ot make a cheap unslotted 3in angle plate casting.

                                                  The AMA is pretty cheap for a universal vice but Harry on ebay is actually our friendly 'shopping partner' on this site Amadeal who also support the Briston show and are very good value.

                                                  #147293
                                                  Roderick Jenkins
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                                                    @roderickjenkins93242

                                                    Posted by Bazyle on 17/03/2014 17:52:54

                                                    Nobody seems to make a cheap unslotted 3in angle plate casting.

                                                    You could try one these. As cheap as a casting and ground on 2 faces

                                                    http://www.axminster.co.uk/ground-angle-plates

                                                    The one I bought was nice quality cast iron

                                                    Rod

                                                    #147295
                                                    Adam Harris
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                                                      @adamharris13683

                                                      Bazyle do you by any chance know a supplier of thin strips of steel plate with engraved graduation degree marks such that could be wrapped and pinned around a swivelling collar (a supplier would presumably produce different strips corresponding to different diameter collars)?

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