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    Adrian Hemmings
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      hello could anyone tell me what and where i can obtain machinery covers to help combat the damp problem in my workshop .thanks ade

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      #17299
      Adrian Hemmings
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        #143692
        ASF
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          @asf

          I know myfords sell one for their size lathe.

          I use old throws on mine although i do have a greenhouse tube type heater on the beds of my mill and lathe as well. Also a little light oil.

          #143693
          Halton Tank
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            @haltontank

            I use plastic tarpaulins that you get from the Pound Shop.

            Regards Luigi

            #143698
            Scott
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              @scott

              Adrian

              If your w/shop is damp I'd suggest using a plastic or pvc cover of some description (Luigi's suggestion is as good as any but not cloth which attracts the moisture) and leave a couple of VCI emitters under the cover. Works for me. I use a bit of old shower curtain. My workshop is an old cow shed that has no dpc and it wouldn't be unusual for there to be water in the trough down the middle if the weather is particularly wet.

              **LINK** for example

              Scott

              #143700
              JA
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                @ja

                Garden centres sell fabric/plastic covers for outdoor chairs, barbeques etc which will fit over a lathe or milling machine. I have used one to cover my milling machine for over seven years – no rust but the plastic eventually starts to rub off.

                JA

                #143702
                Speedy Builder5
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                  @speedybuilder5

                  Investigate the cause of the damp and try to eradicate it. Else use a de-humidifier. Try not to let the temperature fluctuate wildly as when the tools are cold, they tend to condensate when the ambient air temperature rises. Covering machines will often trap moisture beneath the cover. I have used a very oily blanket over my machines for some years with success. Good luck

                  BobH

                  #143705
                  Muzzer
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                    @muzzer

                    I'm never comfortable leaving oily rags and tissues lying about. You might think it's a bit far fetched but in some circumstances they can self combust without the need for a flame or spark. I don't think it's clear what conditions are needed for this to happen but it's clearly a risk, not folklore. If you Google something like "spontaneous combustion oily rag" you can see there is some basis for the notion.

                    Never had a problem with it myself but I try to keep old oily rags and tissues in a steel bin away from other flammable stuff. I don't want to discover the right combination of constituents!

                    Murray

                    #143711
                    speelwerk
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                      @speelwerk

                      Plastic covers are not helpfull to combat damp, as already said above it will trap the moisture, best way is to reduce it as much as possible. Niko.

                      #143712
                      Scott
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                        @scott

                        Good advice Murray. I never leave oily cloths or rags around either. Spontaneous combustion is much more common than people think. A lot of people are blissfully unaware of it. It's generally caused when they are stuffed into bins or left in piles though. Believe it or not even wet towels stuffed into laundry bags can spontaneously combust. It's a recognised cause of fires in ship's laundries. Best to always empty your workshop bins very regularly and keep steel lids on steel bins. Oily swarf and oily rags in a bin is a fire waiting to happen. Anyway, apologies Adrian, I'm digressing from your original topic …

                        #143713
                        GWRdriver
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                          @gwrdriver

                          It's difficult to say how effective it will be, each situation is different, but living in the high humidity of the southern US I have found that along with the usual care, and a little preservative oil now and again, a small circulating fan has done wonders to prevent any condensation (and subsequent rusting.)

                          Edited By GWRdriver on 12/02/2014 21:00:06

                          #143741
                          Bazyle
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                            @bazyle

                            This is one of those topics that keeps coming up and often has contrary views.

                            Plastic sweats – have you never seen those survival programs about about being in the middle of the sahara and catching condensate on the inside of a plastic tent.
                            Cotton sheets or wool blankets are the answer streatched to make minimal contact and perhaps using bamboo canes as stand offs. It creates a warmer microclimate owing to the thermal mass of the machine yet 'breathes'. condensate on the fibre is absorbed rather than running down as on a plastic sheet to pool at the points of contact.

                            The rags thing has just been covered on another forum – have you all been reading that paranoia?

                            #143747
                            Muzzer
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                              @muzzer

                              No idea which forum you're talking about. Call it paranoia if you want but it features in industrial safety literature, so probably not just superstition.

                              Rather like machine guards – failure to learn from other peoples' experience is stupid in my books. Your call…..

                              #143801
                              Peter G. Shaw
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                                @peterg-shaw75338

                                I use self-regulating heaters available from RS Components, and probably others. Also, when not in use for long periods, I cover the lathe and mill with a cloth type material and then plastic.

                                The heaters, though, have proven to be by far and away the best as even through the deepest cold, the machines are kept slightly warm, sufficient to prevent condensation and hence rust.

                                The downside of course, is that they consume small amounts of electricity, but at less than 100W total for both machines, I'm not unduly worried.

                                Peter G. Shaw

                                #143806
                                MICHAEL WILLIAMS
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                                  @michaelwilliams41215

                                  Far better to make structural covers – essentially lightweight boxes shaped to fit machine .

                                  If cover is arranged to sit down reasonably well on something like work table or drip tray then apart from the simple protection provided there is a micro climate inside the cover which can easily be heated and / or dehumidified .

                                  With due regard to fire safety a very low power heat source will keep inside of cover warm and dry .

                                  Alternatively a tray of dehumidifying crystals will remove enough water to prevent rust for a long time .

                                  Silica Gel is best known but there are others .

                                  Spontaneous combustion can be a very real hazard in woodworking shops :

                                  Piles of woodshavings or many solvent based wood treatment products left on rags can burst into flame without apparent cause .

                                  Linseed oil is one of the worst and the bottles actually carry a safety warning .

                                  Regards ,

                                  Michael Williams .

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