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    MICHAEL WILLIAMS
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      @michaelwilliams41215

      When I started off in engineering supplied files from the stores came with nicely shaped good quality handles made from varnished hardwood .

      Similar handles could be bought loose from Buck & Ryan and several other good tool shops .

      Nowadays the only file handles commonly available are rather tatty things made from unvarnished white wood .

      Anyone know a source of good file handles or alternatively – if I made some of my own – what would the right varnish be to use ?

      The varnish question does not have a simple answer – several common varnishes are unsuitable for one reason or another .

      MikeW

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      MICHAEL WILLIAMS
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        @michaelwilliams41215

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        #138779
        Gray62
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          @gray62

          I make file handles from yew and dip them in shellac. Yew finishes well and the shellac gives a really hard durable finish.

          #138780
          speelwerk
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            @speelwerk

            Wood is very pleasant to work with, but these Bergeon **LINK** ones are also fine and has the advantage that they come in different coulors so you can easily select the file you want to use. Niko

            #138782
            Metalhacker
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              @metalhacker

              In one of Guy Lautard's books there is a formula to make the ideal file handle to fit your hand. Sometimes that makes for a large diameter handle! Worth looking at if you have a woodlathe.

              Aandries

              #138785
              Lambton
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                @lambton

                Do an eBay search for " Python file handles" .Python file handles are designed with a ferrule spun into the handle which together with a hidden spring prevents splitting. They are not varnished but this is easy to apply.

                Eric

                #138786
                old Al
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                  @oldal

                  I like the unvarnished wooden handles that are available now, They don't slip and they don't make your hand sweaty.

                  But then not many people file, or have pride in their filing anymore.

                  #138788
                  GaryM
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                    @garym

                    Hi Michael,

                    I like the Vallorbe ones sold by Axminster but they are expensive (~£8). Also they are plastic which some people might not like.

                    **LINK**

                    The sizing is a bit arbitrary as it says in the description.

                    Gary

                    #138797
                    Gordon W
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                      @gordonw

                      Don't varnish or paint file handles, nasty and slippy. We had to make handles from worn out brushes, not easy to get now. I make mine from an old chair leg, still got a few left. Copper plumbing pipe for ferrules . NB a big handle, even for a small file, is better than small,

                      #138799
                      Sub Mandrel
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                        @submandrel

                        I'm afraid I like plastic handles

                        For wooden tool handle boiled linseed oil is ideal.

                        Neil

                        #138800
                        frank brown
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                          @frankbrown22225

                          I store my files in "tubes", horizontally slung under a shelf, so I can only see their ends. While I recognise my favourite ones, I decided to add a "logo" on their ends to make it easier to select a less used one .

                          The nicest handles I have are undoubtedly some flattish plastic handles that were made 40 years ago, never seen them since!

                          Frank

                          #138823
                          Gray62
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                            @gray62
                            Posted by Gordon W on 26/12/2013 17:37:25:

                            Don't varnish or paint file handles, nasty and slippy. We had to make handles from worn out brushes, not easy to get now. I make mine from an old chair leg, still got a few left. Copper plumbing pipe for ferrules . NB a big handle, even for a small file, is better than small,

                            Shellac is great for sealing the wood and prevents the handles becoming grubby, I dip mine and let the excess run off. Once hardened, they get a rub down with wire wool to take the sheen off. I never find them slippery, just very comfortable, but then mine are contoured to my preference and fit my hand, others would possibly dislike them.

                            #138841
                            Russell Eberhardt
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                              @russelleberhardt48058

                              When I used to practice Aikdo I found that varnished wooden weapons would give me blisters while those finished with linseed oil gave a good grip without blisters. I've used linseed oil on tool handles ever since.

                              Russell.

                              #138842
                              MICHAEL WILLIAMS
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                                @michaelwilliams41215

                                Thanks for all the replies about both sources for file handles and suitable coatings .

                                I’ve often been puzzled by the need to use raw Linseed oil for some purposes and boiled Linseed oil for other purposes – can anyone explain why ??

                                Another question is about Shellac . Flake Shellac is a bit elusive if only a small amount is needed – any reason not to use ready made French polish mix ??

                                Anyone tried Beeswax ??

                                MikeW

                                #138852
                                Bazyle
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                                  @bazyle

                                  I guess soon it won't be legal to sell a file without a handle and that will then be a moulded plastic blob. I was in a hardware shop a few years ago when a kid was refused a wire brush. Bet his dad was happy when he had to go out himself for it.

                                  We had the plain wood 'python' handles at one place I worked. Oddly enough I seem to have enough of this type around for most files though I also have a few home made ones including my favourite turned from hawthorn. Is it a bit sad that on a 'make things' forum we even consider not just making something so simple?

                                  #138853
                                  Lambton
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                                    @lambton

                                    All my file handle are now finished in "workshop patina" regardless of how they started life!

                                    #138855
                                    Gray62
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                                      @gray62

                                      Michael,

                                      You can get Shellac from here

                                      #138856
                                      old Al
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                                        @oldal

                                        Python wooden handles are cheap and add uniformity to your collection of files. I don't want any more diversions in my workshop

                                        #138858
                                        North Western
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                                          @northwestern

                                          Michael

                                          – ready mix French polish will work well, though the bottle caps can be a nuisance, as they all seem to be the childproof variety. It is readily available in hardware stores, and you may find a choice of colour tint available.

                                          – Raw linseed oil is much slower drying than boiled, which is processed and has driers added. I was taught that Raw should be used for outdoor applications, such as garden tools, structures, etc., with Boiled used for fine wooden furniture, tool handles, gun stocks etc. Raw seems to develop a deeper amber colour over time. In practice, I have used both for everything, including wiping over the bare steel parts of garden tools, and did not note any adverse effects. A true woodworker will probably disagree with me!

                                          – Python file handles seem to be still readily available from various tool dealers, and last forever. I prefer the bare wood which soon acquires a dark workshop patina as the grime is transferred from hand to tool. When making my own handles I have found beech very reliable, easy to turn and readily available from old furniture. Years ago I was given some Boxwood which I used for small handles, wonderful stuff, but may not be an economical choice now. Ferrules from copper , brass, steel tube, I used to collect any odd ends just for this purpose.

                                          Dave

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